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DysphoricSmile #1 Posted Jun 30 2012 - 17:16

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SOME sort of nerf MUST have taken place in 7.4 for the Bat, as it is now nearly worthless, if you take a single hit you are almost guaranteed either Fire, Engine, Gun, Turret, Track, Ammo rack, or any other module being damaged/death/being knocked out. It seems whenever I play my batchat anymore, I have to avoide being hit AT ALL, otherwise I am almost certainly dead from one, two, or all of the above, and if I do not blow up, I get killed by any enemy after one or all of those things occurring.

I thought the E-50 nerf was bad, but it, at least, is still playable, the T9 batchat is damned near worthless anymore! It CANNOT take ANY hits basically...


Anyone know what this is about or why it is happening?

The E-50 and batchat got nerfed, while it seems that the T-54's front hull bounces infinitely more than it used to, as does the Patton! The Patton used to never bounce ANYTHING! Now I am finding that it bounces pretty frequently....


Not to mention that the Devs. claimed they fixed 0 dmg pens, but my batchat is lucky to get 3 of 6 shells to do any damage when all 6 penetrate! As well my E-50 and E-100 seems to get more 0 dmg pens than EVER! WTF IS GOING ON HERE?

Please, serious answers only, I will ignore you if you say "you just suck at the batchat and/or all tanks"  Cause when I manage to get kills with my Bat since 7.4, it is almost anytime I take no hits at all! And I still manage 3-4 kills in some game, again games where I take only 1 hit or less.

Edited by DysphoricSmile, Jun 30 2012 - 19:04.


HOTA_CHATON #2 Posted Jun 30 2012 - 17:23

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AS they always tell me:  "YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG"  Check what your doing and see if it is the same or do you need to change tactics.

DysphoricSmile #3 Posted Jun 30 2012 - 18:24

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Nope I play it like I ALWAYS have in 7.3 and earlier, in which I almost never had a match with less than 2 kills, AND had a 58% win rate. The batchat now dies after taking a single hit most of the time, not that it explodes, but that it is disabled so damned easily.

DysphoricSmile #4 Posted Jun 30 2012 - 19:48

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So no one has been having the same problems as I am since 7.4?? I play the bat as it is meant to be played, as an ambush vehicle, but it is hard to ambush and kill when your gun is knocked out, you are ammo racked, your engine explodes or is damaged/disabled, and almost every hit kills at least one of your only 3 crew members, and you get tracked many times on your way to kill of a weakened enemy that has better gun elevation/depression than you and a higher profile, so that in the end, what was supposed to be your prey kills you, that or one of its teammates.


OH and I forgot to mention, where in 7.3 and earlier most of my shots did 300+ dmg, now I am lucky to get even 300...

Edited by DysphoricSmile, Jun 30 2012 - 19:52.


Gyarados #5 Posted Jun 30 2012 - 19:54

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1. The E-50 nerf was barely a nerf at all, it's not even noticeable.
2. Critical damage hits have been increased to try and take away the whole idea of 0 damage criticals.

DysphoricSmile #6 Posted Jun 30 2012 - 20:09

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View PostGyarados, on Jun 30 2012 - 19:54, said:

1. The E-50 nerf was barely a nerf at all, it's not even noticeable.
2. Critical damage hits have been increased to try and take away the whole idea of 0 damage criticals.

1. It sure as hell is noticeable! I get engine damage a LOT when I am trying to angle off frontal shots and snipe as I normally would, as well I get crew damage A LOT more often and a lot more easily than before 7.4
2. I do not know what you mean by that as I never hear my crew ever say "Critical hit!" at all anymore (despite having that perk that increases the chance of critical damage with AP or APCR at 100% on all of my top tier vehicles.) And I get more 0 dmg penetrations than I ever have in the past, like I said I am lucky that out of 6 penetrating shots from my batchat that 3 do any damage whatsoever. And if those 0 damage pens are, in fact, damaging crew or modules, I have YET to notice it, I have yet to be saved from a killing blow by knocking out someone's gun or turret or ammo rack or whatever crew member from my countless 0 dmg pens.

Edited by DysphoricSmile, Jun 30 2012 - 20:11.