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The M6, possibly the best Tier 6 heavy.


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rinying #21 Posted Jul 17 2012 - 02:04

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to voice my opinion about best t6 heavy, i personally vote for kv-2. but the m6 and kv-1s i can see why u2 believe they are. m6 = high rof, good accuracy, gun depression, great pen and damage, nice frontal armor. kv-1s, faster, more ALPHA damage, nice pen, and great speed. the m6 i liked better due to my american heavy mentality, which is costing my pershings turret a LOT of hate. i am used to hulling down, and saying "who'se a good little target, whose a good little target, YOUR A GOOD LITTLE TARGET and boom. repeatedly. while suffering no damage. this stems from my t29, and t32, and t34 days. when i played the kv-1s, i couldn't understand its main attributes, and repeatedly got pwned for driving it like an american heavy, or kv-2. i repeatedly missed shots, didn't aim, and didn't manage to kill many enemies. eventually i quit the grind to the kv-13, and IS.

SKULL2XL #22 Posted Jul 19 2012 - 01:57

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THE m6 will be even better with the new match maker in the next patch,,,,may only see tier 8

Aleskander #23 Posted Jul 19 2012 - 20:07

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View PostMeSpankyYourTanky, on Jul 17 2012 - 01:54, said:

its still better...

Nice reasoning there...

Neogenex #24 Posted Jul 19 2012 - 21:24

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View PostAleskander, on Jul 19 2012 - 20:07, said:

Nice reasoning there...

I have both vehicles and I agree that the M6 is much better. The KV1S has a hard hitting cannon, yes, but with such long reload and poor accuracy, it makes for a poorer weapon and a poorer tank.

swedishfishy #25 Posted Jul 19 2012 - 21:31

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i actually have nearly identical stats in the m6 and the old kv-3 (at tier 6).  Now that that is out of the competition the m6 must be the best.  the 90mm and shot absorbing tracks really make it tough when facing equal or some tier 7 opponents

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View Postremenents, on Jul 19 2012 - 21:24, said:

I have both vehicles and I agree that the M6 is much better. The KV1S has a hard hitting cannon, yes, but with such long reload and poor accuracy, it makes for a poorer weapon and a poorer tank.

I'm agreeing with you...

Neogenex #27 Posted Jul 20 2012 - 17:30

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View Postswedishfishy, on Jul 19 2012 - 21:31, said:

i actually have nearly identical stats in the m6 and the old kv-3 (at tier 6).  Now that that is out of the competition the m6 must be the best.  the 90mm and shot absorbing tracks really make it tough when facing equal or some tier 7 opponents

I faced off in my M6 against an Object 704, one on one. Took most of game, but I finally was able to kill him...he kept getting uber track absorbtion when he hit me. He must have fired probably 20 shots, missing some, landing with a few (which only 1 did damage, other couple where either no damage or module), and tracks absorbing others. Needless to say, that guy had serious rage when I killed him. I got called everything you can think of lol. The M6 tracks are amazing at soaking up damage, from any tier.

Sonos #28 Posted Jul 20 2012 - 17:55

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View Postremenents, on Jul 20 2012 - 17:30, said:

I faced off in my M6 against an Object 704, one on one. Took most of game, but I finally was able to kill him...he kept getting uber track absorbtion when he hit me. He must have fired probably 20 shots, missing some, landing with a few (which only 1 did damage, other couple where either no damage or module), and tracks absorbing others. Needless to say, that guy had serious rage when I killed him. I got called everything you can think of lol. The M6 tracks are amazing at soaking up damage, from any tier.

I'd rage if I wasn't able to kill an M6 with 20 shots as an Object as well.  I'd quit playing the Object permanently.  :Smile_blinky:

Neogenex #29 Posted Jul 20 2012 - 18:23

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View PostSonos, on Jul 20 2012 - 17:55, said:

I'd rage if I wasn't able to kill an M6 with 20 shots as an Object as well.  I'd quit playing the Object permanently.   :Smile_blinky:

I thought it was funny as hell. He kept shooting the same spot too, over and over. After the first track and no damage I would have shot somewhere elseol.

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View Postremenents, on Jul 20 2012 - 18:23, said:

I thought it was funny as hell. He kept shooting the same spot too, over and over. After the first track and no damage I would have shot somewhere elseol.

why an object would bother tracking an M6 is really the question I'd ask.  I shot to your flank and you are toast.  Heck, 1 shot to your strong armor would likely turn you to ashes.

That sounds like a really fun match.

I'm only 2K away from the T29 I'll miss this tank a bit.  Not the best but it's certainly a contender and useful in any battle.

Pahech #31 Posted Jul 21 2012 - 14:00

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The M6 is an absolute beast.  Many of its so-called disadvantages can be turned into an advantage.  For instance, the tall profile of the tank means you can shoot over things that much more easier, and the huge sides actually mean your tracks eat up a lot of damage.  It's hilarious to see tier 8/9 firing to no effect sometimes.

The other stuff has been mostly covered by the OP.  It has excellent firepower (90mm is one of the most well-rounded guns in tier 6), good survivability (high HP pool, sort of bouncy turret, damage-absorption tracks), and decent mobility (it has great power-weight ratio, and it doesn't bleed speed that badly).  It also of has the critical gun depression of US tanks, decent view range, and effective ramming prowess.  It might not have a totally exceptional area, but it doesn't really have glaring weaknesses either.

GrandMasterRaziel #32 Posted Jul 21 2012 - 16:39

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As previously stated, the KV-2 is the best tier 6 heavy tank.  The derp-gun makes it relevant at any tier.  The M6 struggles against higher-tier opponents.

There's something to be said for having a gun that does more damage with less ROF - you don't have to have your tank exposed as much.  The longer wait often makes opposing tanks lose interest in you, especially if they're getting hit by someone else.  Having a higher ROF means you have to stay exposed more to exploit it, which in turn means you're more prone to taking damage in return.  You really need a higher-mobility platform than the M6 to properly exploit a high ROF.

Sonos #33 Posted Jul 21 2012 - 16:49

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If you can catch a tank stupidly in the open solo (often) the top engine on the M6 can make it move pretty quickly.  I'm not afraid to flank a slower KV if I'm alive after his first volley and firing on the move.  I'm a better flanker in the M6 than my M4 :Smile_confused:

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View PostMeSpankyYourTanky, on Jul 17 2012 - 01:54, said:

its still better...

In your opinion, it boils down to player's skill.

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View PostMeSpankyYourTanky, on Jul 17 2012 - 01:54, said:

its still better...

Go get your KV-1S, I will get my M6. No gold rounds. Bet I win. Your tank fires WAY to slow. It will take you 3-5 penetrating hits to kill me. In the time you fire those shots, I will have fired 2-3 times as many, killing you before you kill me.

Netchel #36 Posted Jul 23 2012 - 21:01

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M6 really might be the best tier 6.  It's profile and armor make it unique, but so long as you can protect your sides (which is easy with hills or city maps, so anywhere but wide open field) this tank is an absolute beast.  If i get a tier 6 matchup, I know I am walking away with 4+ kills.

I HATED my m6 for the first hundred games or so and couldn't wait to sell it.  But once I learned the power of hull down in an m6, I refuse to sell this tank even when I unlock the T29.  The m6 prints credits like nothing else.  Even if you just yell "Leeeroooy Jenkins" and charge in to your death, odds are you will still make a profit on the scouting alone.  If you actually do well in a game, the credits come pouring in.

And as for MM.  Lately I have been getting very favorable matchups.  With tons of people playing tier 5s to feed credits to other tanks, a tier 6 heavy can clean up. And with the new matchmaker limiting us to tier 8s, the M6 will be a piece of cake.  I just hope they don't nerf the M6.

PanzerRaider #37 Posted Jul 23 2012 - 21:21

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The question is"Will they buff the VK3601H when it becomes a heavy?"

Neogenex #38 Posted Jul 23 2012 - 22:40

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View PostTotenkopfpanzer, on Jul 23 2012 - 21:21, said:

The question is"Will they buff the VK3601H when it becomes a heavy?"

They will have to. You can't just take a medium tank and make it a heavy without changing a thing...otherwise its still a medium with a new classification...

calabacinX #39 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 03:02

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Is great, but it lacks the kv-2's hability to single shot the other tier 6 tanks and put 800+ dammage with one single good placed shot (poor tigers and t-29's)

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View PostSonos, on Jul 21 2012 - 16:49, said:

If you can catch a tank stupidly in the open solo (often) the top engine on the M6 can make it move pretty quickly.  I'm not afraid to flank a slower KV if I'm alive after his first volley and firing on the move.  I'm a better flanker in the M6 than my M4 :Smile_confused:





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