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The M6, possibly the best Tier 6 heavy.


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Boxhawk #41 Posted Jul 25 2012 - 23:45

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View Postremenents, on Jul 23 2012 - 15:23, said:

Go get your KV-1S, I will get my M6. No gold rounds. Bet I win. Your tank fires WAY to slow. It will take you 3-5 penetrating hits to kill me. In the time you fire those shots, I will have fired 2-3 times as many, killing you before you kill me.

That's the thing about the higher damage guns though, Is it going to be 3 or 5?  Do the first two knock out crew members/modules better than the lower damage M6?  I actually had the T1, sold it, re-bought it and researched through to the T29.  I am training up my crew in the T1 and T14 to put into the T29, but I may give the M6 a shot to compare it to my KV-1S.  Both crews are BIA and about halfway through the second skill, so they are equal in that department.

I was meh in my KV-1S until I got the crew skilled up, now it seems like I can snap off a shot without ever slowing down my turret rotation.  Yes guns matter, but crew skills will turn a tank that you just can't seem to turn the corner with into a beast.

MaxL_1023 #42 Posted Jul 26 2012 - 15:39

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M6 is much more mobile and can hit targets at range much more effectively. As well, the high rate of fire lets you fire 3 shots to every 1 from a KV-1S, assuming you peek correctly.

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View PostBoxhawk, on Jul 25 2012 - 23:45, said:

That's the thing about the higher damage guns though, Is it going to be 3 or 5?  Do the first two knock out crew members/modules better than the lower damage M6?  I actually had the T1, sold it, re-bought it and researched through to the T29.  I am training up my crew in the T1 and T14 to put into the T29, but I may give the M6 a shot to compare it to my KV-1S.  Both crews are BIA and about halfway through the second skill, so they are equal in that department.

I was meh in my KV-1S until I got the crew skilled up, now it seems like I can snap off a shot without ever slowing down my turret rotation.  Yes guns matter, but crew skills will turn a tank that you just can't seem to turn the corner with into a beast.

If you want my description of the M6 heavy: Its essentially a tier 6 equivalent of the M4 Sherman with the 76mm gun, only MUCH more accurate.
...or its an M26 that got watered down two tiers.

As far as a KV-1S vs M6 fight goes, M6 wins easily on hilly terrain, long range duels, and extreme CQC. KV-1S can win at peek-a-boo [if it can overcome its aim time problem]... but that's it IMO.
This may change if the KV-1S takes out a module immediately, but the M6 is actually very good with its module damage from what I've experienced. Most KV tanks, on the other hand, seem to burn very easily.

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View PostTupinambis, on Jul 26 2012 - 17:07, said:



If you want my description of the M6 heavy: Its essentially a tier 6 equivalent of the M4 Sherman with the 76mm gun, only MUCH more accurate.
...or its an M26 that got watered down two tiers.

As far as a KV-1S vs M6 fight goes, M6 wins easily on hilly terrain, long range duels, and extreme CQC. KV-1S can win at peek-a-boo [if it can overcome its aim time problem]... but that's it IMO.
This may change if the KV-1S takes out a module immediately, but the M6 is actually very good with its module damage from what I've experienced. Most KV tanks, on the other hand, seem to burn very easily.

Don't forget the "blackhole" tracks of the M6 that magically absorb shells and do zero damage, and in some cases, don't even track the tank. ;)

The KV-1S is a good tabk, don't get me wrong, but its not a tank I fear in basically any tank.

MaxL_1023 #45 Posted Jul 26 2012 - 18:21

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You can get away with angling the M6 25 or 30 degrees due to the tracks, meaning that you can bounce some tier 6 guns. The M6 tracks will eat very high caliber shells even at a 30+ degree angle.

Neogenex #46 Posted Jul 26 2012 - 20:28

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View PostMaxL_1023, on Jul 26 2012 - 18:21, said:

You can get away with angling the M6 25 or 30 degrees due to the tracks, meaning that you can bounce some tier 6 guns. The M6 tracks will eat very high caliber shells even at a 30+ degree angle.

Funniest thing I ever had happen was eating about 15 shells from a 704 on my tracks...no damage. Needless to say, he raging.

masterzjg #47 Posted Jul 26 2012 - 20:45

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With new MM I'll say the m6 is possibly the best tier 6 heavy. No longer having to face tier 9's and 10's will negate the kv2's huge advantage (derp gun).

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I would say it's the best if it was smaller. Size can be a major advantage for a heavy.

Boxhawk #49 Posted Jul 27 2012 - 15:42

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View PostTupinambis, on Jul 26 2012 - 17:07, said:

If you want my description of the M6 heavy: Its essentially a tier 6 equivalent of the M4 Sherman with the 76mm gun, only MUCH more accurate.
...or its an M26 that got watered down two tiers.

As far as a KV-1S vs M6 fight goes, M6 wins easily on hilly terrain, long range duels, and extreme CQC. KV-1S can win at peek-a-boo [if it can overcome its aim time problem]... but that's it IMO.
This may change if the KV-1S takes out a module immediately, but the M6 is actually very good with its module damage from what I've experienced. Most KV tanks, on the other hand, seem to burn very easily.

I got the M6 yesterday.  6 battles, 4 wins 17 kills.  Took out a VK4201 and a GWTiger, damaged a Lowe badly in a T9 battle in which we won and I took 4 hits from the VK and the Lowe.  My first battle in it was top gun, sniper, reaper and a couple of nonsense medals.  

Move over KV1S, I have a new favorite!

Neogenex #50 Posted Jul 27 2012 - 16:43

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View Postxiantom, on Jul 26 2012 - 20:52, said:

I would say it's the best if it was smaller. Size can be a major advantage for a heavy.

The size is an advantage. Take the "weaknesses" and turn them into your advantage.

Neogenex #51 Posted Jul 28 2012 - 23:06

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View PostSilty, on Jul 28 2012 - 13:45, said:

The KV-1S should not be directly brawling with an full-health M6, it should gradually come out on top by doing hit-and-run just like on every other tank.  Then again, if the M6 is even slightly damaged, the KV-1S can two-shot it, which means the M6 won't have time to full use its DPM advantage.

The turret of the M6 is too weak to take hits when hull down, and the lower top speed and traverse compared to the KV-1S prevents it from taking full advantage of its engine.  It's certainly underrated, but the KV-1S is still better.  If you don't fear the KV-1S, it's because most of the drivers are noobs - despite having enough alpha damage to carry their weight with just two shots per game, they have a terrible win rate somehow.

Eh, I guess I agree with this. The KV1S can beat a M6, but like you said, most players dont play it right. Regardless though, I still don't fear it in a M6 because the M6 is better, at least, for my playstyle.

Noowin #52 Posted Jul 29 2012 - 17:19

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I disagree. Heck I eat M6s, T150s, all meds, the only things I might have problems in with my KV-1S are arl44 and kv2. I even destroy tigers. And I think some people are playing the KV1S wrong. You don't head charge. You wait for the battle to get started then find tanks of your tier or less and 1 shot them. Then you kick some high tier butt. 175 pen at tier 6... You can't get much better than that.

Noowin #53 Posted Jul 29 2012 - 17:24

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The tank where you play the best in is the "best" tank. All tanks have advantages and disadvantages. It all depends on playstyle. If you can use a tank to its advantages then you will pwn. I personally am not scared of anything that's under tier 8 other than the IS series. Probably because I always shoot them first. Haha

Will_of_Iron #54 Posted Jul 29 2012 - 17:29

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What about the ARL 44? High pen gun, sloped armor, and fairly low profile.

Edited by Will_of_Iron, Jul 29 2012 - 17:29.


Tupinambis #55 Posted Jul 29 2012 - 17:35

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The high pen on the ARL-44 is, for the most part, going to be useless after 7.5. WHen tier 6 heavies don't have to face tier 9 and 10 enemies anymore, there really isn't any need for the 212 pen gun.

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View PostNoowin, on Jul 29 2012 - 17:24, said:

The tank where you play the best in is the "best" tank. All tanks have advantages and disadvantages. It all depends on playstyle. If you can use a tank to its advantages then you will pwn. I personally am not scared of anything that's under tier 8 other than the IS series. Probably because I always shoot them first. Haha

Well said.

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View PostWill_of_Iron, on Jul 29 2012 - 17:29, said:

What about the ARL 44? High pen gun, sloped armor, and fairly low profile.

I've never played one, but I've never feared them.probably because of the whole "French tanks have no armor" mentality. From what I hear, they are a good tank though.

Tupinambis #58 Posted Jul 30 2012 - 08:42

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View Postremenents, on Jul 29 2012 - 17:53, said:

I've never played one, but I've never feared them.probably because of the whole "French tanks have no armor" mentality. From what I hear, they are a good tank though.

Ironically, the ARL-44 is an exceptionally well armored tank for tier 6. Easily the best protected hull armor, and the turret has that little troll mantle on it.

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View PostSittingduck75, on Jul 11 2012 - 22:54, said:

The gun depression is good.  You can climb hills faster and fight on them better.  Hull down is an American standard and use it often.

The very last and best reason the M6 is a great tank, IT LETS YOU UNLOCK THE VERY SUPREMELY WONDERFUL T29.

On the fist sentence i agree, the American gun depression i think is the best in the game

On the second sentence, I also agree, the T29 is just awesome, and once you mount the 105mm, it gets better, great tank

Buuuuuuuuuut, I had a sad time during my M6, terrible losses and a poor win ratio, but if you´re having fun, congratz, see you on the field!

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Playing a few medium TCs today, it occurs to me the M6 is likely the best now, the DPS and accuracy and no need to worry about the KV 3 frontal armor..... don't understand the obsession with the -1S myself (though it is a good vehicle and was previously underrated)

Edited by Antosha_, Jul 30 2012 - 19:08.





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