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As a regular user of the Chaffee, I always look for new weakspots on tanks where its fearsome gun can penetrate. After finding a frontal one on the T110E5, I decide to find out exactly how weak it is by testing the SU-152's HE rounds on it in a training map, which have a measly 86mm of penetration. Lulz ensues as the HE round does full damage.

The link to the replay is below, or you can simply look at the picture if you are too lazy to load up the replay.

http://mwreplays.com...oad&repid=16926

*edit* After further review this spot can be damaged with penetrations as low as 50mm under ideal conditions.



Now can we all stop complaining about its armor?

*edit* Heres a video of an A-32 punching through with its 66 penetration AP rounds, and a BT-2 with... whatever rounds it has. Watch in high quality.


Edited by KarateF22, Jul 18 2012 - 05:06.

nice find

k3e5n, on Jul 17 2012 - 22:51, said:

It works on the other side too, same general area.

Lucky pen roll. Now try to do it repeatedly and reliably under battle conditions.

Lert, on Jul 17 2012 - 22:52, said:

Lert, weak points do not necessarily have to be reliable to be useful. If you are a cornered SU-152 against a T110E5, this is your best chance at surviving. Even if it does not penetrate, HE works best when striking weak armor. As for lucky pen roll, note that that area is basically flat... and when i hover my mouse over it in game, I get a green indicator when loaded with HE rounds. This means it isn't even within the +/- 25% variation. It is very likely if I actually hit the weakspot it will go through. It IS a *tiny* strip of extremely weak armor, but that doesn't mean its not a useful place to know of.

Lert, on Jul 17 2012 - 22:52, said:

Lert, I was the T110, trust me, its a reliable spot :P

Edit: And not much fun I might add
Edited by alexsamson, Jul 17 2012 - 22:56.

Actually HE rounds always leave holes, even if they don't penetrate. It may look like you did but you truly didn't.

the lower left and right spots of the T110s lower plate are VERY thin, pretty much anything goes through it

Gizmo247, on Jul 17 2012 - 22:56, said:

OP said it did full damage.

its a good spot but t110 drivers usually are on the move because they are top of the list and need to stay mobile. if you get a chance though take it.

You don't say. After 18k+ battles I hadn't realised yet. Wow, really? HE works best when striking weak armor, even if it doesn't penetrate? I had no idea. (warning, sarcasm may be present)

This particular weak spot is not easy to hit though, especially under battlefield conditions, especially with an inaccurate howitzer. It's not a bad place to shoot, but just because under ideal conditions he rammed an 86mm pen HE shell through the T110's lower plate doesn't mean that you can rely on it to work. You're just as likely to hit a thicker part, hit the track or hit the ground, all of which will do much less damage.

Good to know thanks.

Known about that spot for awhile.  It isn't easy to hit.

Basically guns under 175 pen, that is all they have to pen from the front.

Lert, on Jul 17 2012 - 22:59, said:

True, I wouldn't want to have to be shooting at that spot either - but just because the likelihood of nailing that spot is nearly zero doesn't mean it's not useful info.  Particularly if it's got one cornered and is intent on taking one's lunch money...

Lert, on Jul 17 2012 - 22:52, said:

You used to seem like a really cool person that gave good advice, but somewhere you became jaded and filled with contempt.  The guy gives a neat little show of where a low pen gun could penetrate someone.

Fazar, on Jul 18 2012 - 00:11, said:

It appears there are a few people in this thread who drive T110s and don't want the general populace to know weakspots.  They will deny it of course but they are full of bullshit.

Its good advice I drive a -152 and will be derping it when facing the big boy.
Edited by Sonos, Jul 18 2012 - 00:15.

T-110 penned by a MS-1: (With report and reply from WG)
http://forum.worldof...ms-1-frontally/

Video:
http://www.youtube.c...d&v=E4pr6nnS2To

In one of those moments where you're in a lower tier tank and think you have no chance of winning, then you remember this thread and take a gamble against its lower glacis, and somehow, it worked and you just won a match for your team.

It happens more often than people think.

I seem to recall from WOTArmory that the 110's armor is very weak at that location. It would take a high pen roll to do it, but it certainly can do it as you've shown.

click me

Kilroy357, on Jul 18 2012 - 00:23, said:

The area I am pointing out is smaller than that picture states. Its literally a tiny strip where there is basically no armor. I actually suspect that, in reality, that location is using the T110E5's side armor values instead of the front, which are about 76mm, hence the easy penetration.

*edit* Nevermind, it can reliably be penetrated by 50mm penetration AP rounds and often penetrated by 50mm penetration HE rounds (from my VK2801).
Edited by KarateF22, Jul 18 2012 - 01:26.