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Recently Dead T-72 - Guess the circumstances

the_moidart's Photo the_moidart Jul 19 2012

Here's a dead T-72 in Syria. I was just wondering if the various veterans and experts on here cared to speculate on the circumstances of its distruction.

From what I can see, it was destroyed in a dug in position. The turret is off and the vehicle has clearly burned.

Can anyone guess how it met its demise? RPG? Molotov? Self destruction? Some other means?

http://blogs.aljazee...blic/tank_1.jpg
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Jager_Panther1's Photo Jager_Panther1 Jul 19 2012

ummm, i would say internal explosion of some kind, since getting the turret off needs alot of force
Edited by Jager_Panther1, Jul 19 2012 - 19:55.
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RustBucket_VI's Photo RustBucket_VI Jul 19 2012

Poor thing.
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Mankoi's Photo Mankoi Jul 19 2012

If i judge from the turret , its a T-72A , the earliest model of the T-72 . You rarely see one of those.
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Yankee's Photo Yankee Jul 19 2012

ammo racked
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Mankoi's Photo Mankoi Jul 19 2012

Just as in the game . The Mosque is indestructable .
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kiem's Photo kiem Jul 19 2012

Someone fired a gold round through his cover and ammo racked him :Smile_Default:

and yes Tali does deserve a better ending.
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Nisae's Photo Nisae Jul 19 2012

Ammorack.
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RustBucket_VI's Photo RustBucket_VI Jul 19 2012

Probably had to be abandoned by the crew and was self destructed for being a POS russian tank.
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PaintedBlack's Photo PaintedBlack Jul 19 2012

More then likely an atgm
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The_Chieftain's Photo The_Chieftain Jul 19 2012

Was that one of the ones from Azzaz? Looks like the same mosque, they seem to have lost most of a company of T-72s there. Given the varying directions of hull and turret on the tanks, my immediate guess is that they were ambushed, not that they were engaged in defensive positions.

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panzerdan412's Photo panzerdan412 Jul 20 2012

tanks in a urban setting are useless unless support in force and One bmp3  doesn't count as support
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PaintedBlack's Photo PaintedBlack Jul 20 2012

 panzerdan412, on Jul 20 2012 - 02:19, said:

tanks in a urban setting are useless unless support in force and One bmp3  doesn't count as support


well t72's and the Syrian army are pretty useless.  besides the fact.
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CommissarYarrick's Photo CommissarYarrick Jul 20 2012

Kornet, maybe.

 The_Chieftain, on Jul 19 2012 - 23:15, said:

Was that one of the ones from Azzaz? Looks like the same mosque, they seem to have lost most of a company of T-72s there. Given the varying directions of hull and turret on the tanks, my immediate guess is that they were ambushed, not that they were engaged in defensive positions.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mz3tsAYN48"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=2Mz3tsAYN48[/url]

Makes sense, that same day 98 Syrian Army soldiers died all over Syria, and another tank (a T-72 IIRC) was captured during that same battle at Azzaz, Aleppo. My guess is a mix of RPG-7s, 29s, and Kornets took care of the tanks, as the FSA has supplies of all 3. Although the FSA does have some tanks, they don't have many, and it seems the larger battalions serving Homs, Hama, and Damascus are the main ones who use them.

By the way, according to the commander, 20 AFVs were killed during that battle.
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tankcrunch's Photo tankcrunch Jul 20 2012

well there goes another pos tank.....
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Kazunemaru's Photo Kazunemaru Jul 20 2012

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CommissarYarrick's Photo CommissarYarrick Jul 20 2012

 tankcrunch, on Jul 20 2012 - 21:32, said:

well there goes another pos tank.....

The T-72 is most definitly NOT POS. Only major time where it was pitted against modern American tanks was in Iraq, which had copies and poorly-trained crew. In 1982 against Israel, only 14 were lost throughout the entire war and none seemingly due to Israeli tank action.
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ViktorTsoi's Photo ViktorTsoi Jul 21 2012

Well i don't know what caused it but probably some sort of shell maybe tank maybe RPG, but Soviet tanks have such a small height and turret because they have auto-loader and ammo right under the turret ,when it gets hit it blows up tearing the turret up and off the tank also killing everyone inside pretty much turning the tank into a anti-personnel mine.

My best guess it was in this dug in position and hit with a wire-guided ATGM the ammo rack detonated and blew the turret off.
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Will_of_Iron's Photo Will_of_Iron Jul 21 2012

Is that a dent/hole in the top of it behind the turret? If so, maybe a lowish powered missile or bomb? Well the tank is still there, and you can still tell it is/was a tank. My uneducated mostly joking guess? Somebody thought it was a good idea to smoke while refueling.
Edited by Will_of_Iron, Jul 21 2012 - 04:45.
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_KoTToN's Photo _KoTToN Jul 26 2012

Its russian, so my guess is someone drove it more than 30 miles and it Chernobyl'ed.
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