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IS-3 can't hurt a ST-1?


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Sandman1969 #1 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 20:50

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Can someone watch this replay & tell me why the 2 shots I was able to take on the ST-1 did nothing what so what at a whopping distance of 58m?
http://mwreplays.com...y/2C5MHFPEOA0W/

The first shot isn't the clearest but the second, you can clearly see me hit the turret and yet nothing. Not even a "bounced off" etc.

Is this yet another RNG bs factor?

Edited by Sandman1969, Jul 24 2012 - 21:12.


Nepos #2 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 20:53

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what gun are you using?

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View PostSandman1969, on Jul 24 2012 - 20:50, said:

Can someone watch this replay & tell me why the 2 shots I was able to take on the ST-1 did nothing what so what at a whopping distance of 58m?
http://mwreplays.com...y/2C5MHFPEOA0W/

The first shot isn't the clearest but the second, you can clearly see me hit the turret and yet nothing. Not even a "bounced off" etc.

Is this yet another RNG bs factor?

So why was this post worthy of a neg rep?
I guess asking a simple question is bad around here.
the ST-I's turret is virtually inpenetrable

F1zzzy90908 #4 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 20:57

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the ST-1's turret is incredibly bouncy, with the angles its probably tougher than a T30 turret.

Sandman1969 #5 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:00

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View PostNepos, on Jul 24 2012 - 20:53, said:

what gun are you using?

BL-9.

darkdog9 #6 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:04

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The turret will pretty much bounce everything in the game but you can pen the lower hull with anything 160 pen+ and upper hull being a mix of 190/225 pen.

http://wotarmory.com...-test-server/2/

Pretty much in the higher tier never shoot at the front of someones turret.

h_balck #7 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:04

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When facing an ST-1 focus on the hull.

ledhed14 #8 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:08

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My KV3 just finished killing one from 100% health.
It doesn't have the penetration of the BL9 ..
Where did you aim?
Its tough frontal armour,  but has weak hatch and turret cheeks,But angles make this turret like a T95... you have to be at right angle to even have a chance to pen.The hatches, require you to shoot from a higher elevatin..so good luck there.    no tumor turret though.
The big front lower plate on hull is where it usually gets nailed.The Turret is a pain except dead on from rear or side,  and I bounced a E75. 128 off side of turret ..Under the turret was death though.Its sorta a big target.

Sandman1969 #9 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:10

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Considering where he was and where I was, there was no way to focus on the hull. Since he was above me, all I could get a shot on was the turret. He was also aimed at me, so I tried to get some damage done without dying right away.
He would have had a clear shot to my side.

Ledhed, watch the replay to see what was happening.

The replay is downloadable, even though it says incomplete.

Edited by Sandman1969, Jul 24 2012 - 21:12.


GabrielAngelos #10 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:16

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Just aim for weakspots on enemy tanks. Go to youtube to find the weakspots if you do not already know them.

Sandman1969 #11 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:19

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I don't see very many ST-1s actually.

ledhed14 #12 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:22

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Ya when I get home I am on the android I had to quit playing and go cover real quick for a guy in work.
I get what your saying.
The KV4. If you were shooting up at it I have no idea how you could pen THAT ..and the ST is wayyy better.
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Me in my IS3 ..HE at gun then try to move for a better shot.
If he has the gun depression on your IS3 shooting down at you your screwed.
The pike slope maybe helps a little but the shoulder shots should burn you.

darkdog9 #13 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:28

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Watched the replay you should have either

A)retreat he has the upper hand either flank around back & open yourself to enemy fire from there base or wait for support
B)aim at the Commanders hatch

For kv4 either aim for lower hull which can be penned by 160 straight on or 195 at a 45 angle or aim for the large commander hatch on top of turret which can be penned with 170 the front of the turret also used to be penned by 170 but they may have fixed that. If you at face hugging range with a low to ground tank with low pen like a IS aim for either the driver slot or machine gun port and upper hull each can be penned by a 120 gun.

Edited by darkdog9, Jul 24 2012 - 21:33.


streetluis #14 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 21:29

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Lower plate is 160mm effective, shoot there k

thestuff #15 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 22:08

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iv always thought of the ST-I as like a copy of a American heavy.

(its ST-I not ST-1)

Embiggener #16 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 22:15

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View PostSandman1969, on Jul 24 2012 - 21:10, said:

Considering where he was and where I was, there was no way to focus on the hull. Since he was above me, all I could get a shot on was the turret. He was also aimed at me, so I tried to get some damage done without dying right away.
He would have had a clear shot to my side.

Ledhed, watch the replay to see what was happening.

The replay is downloadable, even though it says incomplete.

Then you needed to move.  Don't worry so much about him shooting your side, he'll pen you anywhere anyways.

If you can't move, at least try to knock out his gun with HE before you die.

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Tier 8 tanks complaining that they find it difficult to kill a tier 9?

Rypper #18 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 22:27

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View Postdarkdog9, on Jul 24 2012 - 21:04, said:

Pretty much in the higher tier never shoot at the front of someones turret.
...unless that someone is in a Maus. Seriously that thing needs a buff bad.

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View PostSandman1969, on Jul 24 2012 - 21:19, said:

I don't see very many ST-1s actually.
I still have it outstanding for Master Tanker. When I see one, 9 out of 10 times he is on my team :(

Irostas #20 Posted Jul 24 2012 - 22:31

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Look it this way, I´ve shot the turret of a ST in my IS-8 with the M62 gun: bounce

So, as said, aim for the hull




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