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What you want in an E-100

Poll: E-100 Configuration Poll (124 )

What weapon upgrade do you want for the E-100?

  1. 12.8 cm KwK 44/2 L/61 (560 dam, 276 pen AP, 4.2 RPM) (58 [46.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.77%

  2. 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 (750 dam, 245 pen AP, 3.18 RPM) (49 [39.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.52%

  3. 8.8 cm FlaK L/100 x 2 (240 dam, 261 pen APCR, 9 RPM) (5 [4.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.03%

  4. unnamed 17cm howitzer (1100 dam, ~250 pen, 1.9 RPM) (12 [9.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

What turret should be mounted on the E-100?

  1. Krupp Turret (250/150/150, 18* traverse, 58 tonnes, current turret) (21 [16.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.94%

  2. Maus Turret (240/210/210, 14* traverse, 58 tonnes) (17 [13.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.71%

  3. Henschel Turret (280/160/160, 18* traverse, 27 tonnes) (74 [59.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 59.68%

  4. Adler Turret (stats unknown to me) (12 [9.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

What should be the Lower Glacis' thickness?

  1. 150mm (current) (10 [8.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.06%

  2. 160-170mm (30 [24.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.19%

  3. 200mm (historic) (79 [63.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.71%

  4. >200mm (5 [4.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.03%

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Slakrrrrrr's Photo Slakrrrrrr Jul 28 2012

There are a lot of different opinions as to how the E-100 should be buffed, as many people know it is less of a tank than it's competitors.

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The 8.8 cm FlaK L/100 x 2 (possibly mounted on the Adler Turret). The standard ammunition would be APCR rounds like the tier 10 mediums.

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A better look at the Adler Turret.

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E-100 with Henschel Turret. With this mounted the E-100 would weigh a lot less and would have acceleration similar to the E-75 and a 32-35km/h top speed.

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Comparison between the historic and in-game lower glacis thickness (look at the rectangles).


P.S. please tell us what you chose for each question and a description of how your E-100 would compete with the other tier 10s. I personally chose the 12.8cm KwK L/61 with the Henschel Turret and 200mm Lower Glacis armor.

Edit: any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated!
Edited by Slakrrrrrr, Jul 28 2012 - 09:14.
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Cave__Johnson's Photo Cave__Johnson Jul 28 2012

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I personally chose the 12.8cm KwK L/61 with the Henschel Turret and 200mm Lower Glacis armor.
Same.
E-100 needs pen. It's never going to get a speed buff (it should be 10kph faster) and I can live with that for game balance, but the pen is so substandard you need to be a flanker to use it and without speed YOU CAN'T FLANK. It's a HP sponge right now and the maus has better armor as the weakspots on this tank are large and well know like the r2d2 of a kv-5. 4-5 hits your dead in this turd. Your reload is so long you'll be lucky to trade shots with arty let alone the new X meds. As it stands this tank is chum for the new tanks.
Edited by Scapeg, Jul 28 2012 - 08:47.
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Deathskyz's Photo Deathskyz Jul 28 2012

The lower hull is 150mm thick right now, NOT 180mm.
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Slakrrrrrr's Photo Slakrrrrrr Jul 28 2012

 Deathskyz, on Jul 28 2012 - 08:47, said:

The lower hull is 150mm thick right now, NOT 180mm.
thanks Deathskyz, poll has been updated!

Edit: the reason why I chose the 12.8cm is because it still has the best alpha of all of the tier 10s, but sacrifices a portion of it for the expected RoF increase to maintain similar DPM aswell as penetration similar to the M58 and M62-T2. I chose the Henschel Turret because every other heavy before it is a Henschel tank with a Henschel turret, meaning it would play similarly to it's predecessors. I chose the historic lower glacis thickness because if this tank is supposed to brawl, it needs the armor for it.
Edited by Slakrrrrrr, Jul 28 2012 - 09:13.
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prince_machiavelli's Photo prince_machiavelli Jul 28 2012

15cm, Henschel and 200mm.
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Camels's Photo Camels Jul 28 2012

A beautiful turret and the jagdtigers 128. A dream ofcourse
In reality, a penetration buff/accuracy buff/aiming time buff/reload buff. Not all of these but any one of em. I want a tank made to deal damage, not one that has issues causing it.
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MagusGerhardt's Photo MagusGerhardt Jul 28 2012

Henschelturm, already using a mod so I don't have to look at that ugly Krupp-thing.

15cm gun; the tank is meant to be a mobile brawler and peekaboom tank.  The lower RoF of the big gun means the tank is exposed to less counterfire than it would with a more rapid firing but lower damage gun.  Slight increase to the 150mm's penetration will increase its usefulness tenfold.

The lower glacis does not need to be jacked all the way up to 200mm, but an increase to 160-180 would do a lot to fix the E-100's glass jaw problem.
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tlun315's Photo tlun315 Jul 28 2012

12.8 cm KwK 44/2 L/61 (560 dam, 276 pen AP, 4.2 RPM)
Henschel Turret
200mm (historic)
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whipster's Photo whipster Jul 28 2012

I want to see twin 88s It would be so cool.
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Sniper's Photo Sniper Jul 28 2012

i chose the 170mm howitzer, the maustrum, and 200mm. I like the maustrum better than the Henschel turret because as you turn it it becomes better. It has more angles that are hard to pen.
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ysoignorant's Photo ysoignorant Jul 28 2012

I'd take the same turret, same thickness, and the 12.8, but then again Alder, 160-180, and 245mm sounds damn good.
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Meoow's Photo Meoow Jul 28 2012

Lol don't even bother, this is a "business" where maximise profits is always top priority. In any kind of projects, profit is always the 1st thing to come the the question, "how much profits would we get from doing this" ect. You get the point.
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Xlucine's Photo Xlucine Jul 29 2012

You've got the historic stats wrong. 150mm is the historic lower hull, and 200mm is the historic turret front - I don't hear anyone demanding that needs reducing (although if the turret did have the historical armour scheme (200mm front, 80mm sides, 150mm rear) it would only weigh 35 tons).

And 17cm gun in E-100 heavy tank is complete fantasy with no basis in reality. You might as well ask for 128mm in tiger.
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bigeye123's Photo bigeye123 Jul 30 2012

Stick with the current turret and give us Dual 88mms shooting APCR. Combined RPM for them should be 10-12. Epic winning. Just a dream though. In reality I would like the Henschel turret of course an a 15cm with more penetration. Buff the lower glacis to E75 strength and its all good.
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Haides's Photo Haides Jul 30 2012

I voted for the better 150 mm, the Mausturm (as it was likely to be the actual turret used on it, the Henschel was never planned to be used and the Krupp one is ugly), and 150 mm lower plate,150mm is the actual historical thickness, plus every tank needs a weakspot. Knocking the lower plate up to 200 thick would mean that it'd be virtually unpennable from the front, which is silly, IMO, if the other tier 10 heavies don't get that benefit.
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hoom's Photo hoom Jul 30 2012

200mm lower glacis is not historic.

'Adler' & Henschel turrets are made up.
Especially the 'Adler' would be terrible, Henschel doesn't seem to leave any room for the crew either side of the gun.

Mausturm or the one ingame. Bear in mind that the ingame one is massively up-armored from the 200mm front, 80mm sides it'd have had in the design.
Mausturm would be substantially heavier so you'd loose a heap of mobility.

17cm was for the TD version.
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streetluis's Photo streetluis Jul 31 2012

Can't beleive how many voted 200mm Lower plate that would make it the same effective as upper which is the strongest upper ingame + 280mm turret = OP E-100
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Slakrrrrrr's Photo Slakrrrrrr Jul 31 2012

 streetluis, on Jul 31 2012 - 06:47, said:

Can't beleive how many voted 200mm Lower plate that would make it the same effective as upper which is the strongest upper ingame + 280mm turret = OP E-100
the lower plate is at a 50* angle while the upper plate is at a 60* angle. This means the lower armor has a much lower armor value.
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Hastyr's Photo Hastyr Jul 31 2012

 streetluis, on Jul 31 2012 - 06:47, said:

Can't beleive how many voted 200mm Lower plate that would make it the same effective as upper which is the strongest upper ingame + 280mm turret = OP E-100

even with some more frontal armour the think will remain a PoS
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Will_of_Iron's Photo Will_of_Iron Jul 31 2012

Well I would love having more penetration of the gun, the turret that looks like it came off a giant Tiger 2, and a buff to the lower plate, 200mm sounds right to me.
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