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WoT's most well-kept secret, the "S" key


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Dunfalach #81 Posted Jul 13 2013 - 14:37

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View PostLert, on Jul 29 2012 - 12:38, said:

Like, it took me until about 3 days ago to realise that you need 9 spots and the win for scout badge, I thought it was 8 spots and the win.

Didn't it used to be six at one point? Or is that just mistaken memory.

View PostSigSauerSSG3000T, on Oct 25 2012 - 11:32, said:

While we are on the topic of real men; why is it most of the time tankers all scramble off as soon as the timer hits zero and never wait for the first scout reports to come in? Time after time the scouts are side by side heavies and not ahead enough to give a battle situation report. Then most pig pile on the wrong side, get flanked, and die. Wait a second, let the scout do their job for the arty and heavies, then move to where you are needed. Save the mad scramble for lower levels and the pointless driving to get to where you should have been in the first place.

View PostLert, on Oct 25 2012 - 11:46, said:

Usually when I'm top tier heavy or TD I'll wait a few moments to see where everyone is going, just for that reason, sig.

I usually wait on most of my tanks, simply because I need to know what others are doing to see if there's some weakness I need to try to counter. Although I'm learning to use the "watch the cap rather than try to solo the empty flank" approach for really bad lemming teams.


View PostNoblesseOblige, on Nov 04 2012 - 03:47, said:

Pressing "S" means your losing ground and are about to die.

Losing ground, yes. But ground is not the objective. Capping or killing is the objective. Exchanging ground for advantage is a very viable and classic military strategy.

View PostGohibniu, on Nov 21 2012 - 14:27, said:

I am guilty as charged! Too often I try to get just one more shot off to finish that tank and usually its me that finishes early. Bad habit....

Yeah, trying to get the kill is one that does me in more often than not. I stay exposed too long to finish an enemy off and take too much damage or even die.

View PostLuissen, on Jan 25 2013 - 19:11, said:

People don't seem to realize that thick armor pointed back at your team (turning around) is useless

Turning around is best used when you're retreating BEFORE you're in trouble, out of the enemy's view, thus giving you greater speed to get to a new position. It's doing it under fire that's dangerous.

View Postslambuggy, on Feb 19 2013 - 06:58, said:

Yes the "s" key does have it's advantages when you're looking into a 100 mm cannon. Is it considered noble when say, in a group of three, one "esses" to look for the flank leaving two to stand their ground? (Not being sarcastic but looking for strategic answers for what is best for the team). Yes, stay alive, I get that. So many times I have been in the middle of a fire fight with one or two team mates, get zapped and find that I was all alone.

I'm a newb and looking for better ways to be an asset.
Slambuggy

It depends. If you're in a damage race, two teams trading blows and coordinating fire, then backing out may cost your team that race. But in normal peekaboo play, there's nothing wrong with backing out and flanking while your allies have them pinned down. I'd pop into chat and announce you're flanking once you're not under enemy fire, just so people know and have an opportunity to work with you. Just a simple typing of 'flanking' can do.


One other good use for the S key is ensuring you're out of spotting range before moving to another shooting spot for a better angle (or simply because you think the enemy may figure out where you are soon). In a fast tank, there are even times it's worth doing something on one flank to stabilize it, reversing out, and running over to help the other flank. Playing fire brigade is sometimes necessary.

Edited by Dunfalach, Jul 13 2013 - 14:46.


Viktor_von_Boom #82 Posted Jul 13 2013 - 14:42

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At only 3300 battles I'm still a n00b and learning (sloooooowly).

This is key (nyuk nyuk) advice. Thank you Lert, particularly about drawing enemies into friendly LOS.

Tazilon #83 Posted Jul 13 2013 - 16:53

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And here I thought WOT's most well kept secret was that Arty has tracks and can move to get shots...

ScotsGray #84 Posted Jul 16 2013 - 01:15

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no doubt , and I'm a serious multiple offender.

Admiral_Yuki #85 Posted Aug 21 2013 - 07:20

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http://www.2shared.c...y-VK3601H_.html
Sorry for necro but I thought this game showed how much the "s" key can make a difference.  Full reverse down a steep hill when outnumbered 4-5 to 1.  End up surviving and killing 2.  Skip a minute or two in.

Edited by Admiral_Yuki, Aug 21 2013 - 07:21.


Dunfalach #86 Posted Aug 21 2013 - 13:34

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View PostAdmiral_Yuki, on Aug 21 2013 - 07:20, said:

http://www.2shared.c...y-VK3601H_.html
Sorry for necro but I thought this game showed how much the "s" key can make a difference.  Full reverse down a steep hill when outnumbered 4-5 to 1.  End up surviving and killing 2.  Skip a minute or two in.

I had a nearly 2600 damage match with a fighting retreat and repeated repositioning in my SU-122-44. With special mention to the two brave tier 5s that took on tier 7 heavies and gave me the chance to use the -44s mobility. I couldn't have pulled it off without them holding attention when they did.

http://wotreplays.co...alach-su-122-44

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View PostKingCrabby, on Nov 22 2012 - 06:58, said:

Most times using the "S" key properly is not only good for the person using it, but also for the team they are on.

Most of the time, the choice to use it depends on the area for me.  If I have good cover and the enemy is a distance away, you better believe that I'm turning around to get as much speed to move to a different position.  If cover is sparse or the red team is on me,  I'll keep my stronger armor forward to them and back to the next position.  Besides, in a lot of pubs I play, there are too many who won't pop out to take a shot at me if my barrel is pointed towards them and they don't have the angle to get a shot on my weak spots.

dmckay #88 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 15:52

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Real men are commanders who sit with their head exposed tru hatch so as to be able to see better.  There are a lotta of headless "real men".

wyrda78 #89 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:49

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Most of the time I'll retreat if presented with overwhelming odds. However if the matchmaking is horrible, my finger doesn't leave the W key till I'm dead.

Noowin #90 Posted Aug 30 2013 - 19:50

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I'm a Real smart man... How does that work?

Julmac #91 Posted Sep 16 2013 - 18:31

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I see a lot about a "real man" standing their ground, what about those of us GIRLS, who ain't afraid to stand out ground? yea I use the S key every now and then, BUT I have three brothers, so ya'll ain't got a tank in this game that I'm afraid of.
withdraw,,,pppffff, try having your brother screen every single guy that comes to pick you up for a date, THAT my friends is scarry

Ehrlichmann #92 Posted Sep 16 2013 - 19:43

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Never retreat, just make a tactical advance in the opposite direction :)

Dunfalach #93 Posted Sep 16 2013 - 20:33

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View PostJulmac, on Sep 16 2013 - 18:31, said:

withdraw,,,pppffff, try having your brother screen every single guy that comes to pick you up for a date, THAT my friends is scarry

Sounds like a good brother. :)

NutrientibusMeaGallus #94 Posted Sep 16 2013 - 20:47

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I can't use the S key... I can't use the W, A, or D either...  :sad:

I'm left handed so I have to map it to my number pad....  :trollface:

Capitalist_Pig #95 Posted Sep 17 2013 - 17:37

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Reverse is for the weak

Julmac #96 Posted Sep 18 2013 - 00:57

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View PostDunfalach, on Sep 16 2013 - 20:33, said:

Sounds like a good brother. :)

I actually have three brothers, the other two are usually out working , my older brother is in the Navy and stationed here at home :)
MOST times its ok having him check out the guys that ask me out bu once he chase off a guy I really wanted to go to the movie with cause he had a low rider car and listened to Heavy Metal music :(

MisterPatriot #97 Posted Oct 08 2013 - 04:56

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Next time: Lert's guide on the C key.

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View PostRodneyDangerfield, on Apr 18 2013 - 22:10, said:

Lol he uses arrows..... Noob

maybe he is left handed ever think of that?

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View PostTazilon, on Jul 13 2013 - 16:53, said:

And here I thought WOT's most well kept secret was that Arty has tracks and can move to get shots...

that is usually the difference between life and death in an arty(tho some arty players don't move even if u tell them about the shell that just landed next to them)

JulesVurn1 #100 Posted Nov 27 2013 - 19:18

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Hey Lert.
As always your putting out the good stuff.
I dont usually comment in your posts; but with all the nonsense I have seen bantered here, I would like to make an analogy.
If you are boxing (some know - some don't) you would never lead with your chin. There is a time when you are so tired that putting forth effort in a push (even in a "rope a dope") you are being foolish. Sometimes, just backing off, so your opponent can make an error, seeks intelligence beyond wisdom. The "S" key can buy you time, bring your team closer or at least let you reload with impunity. Think before you push, push, push to your doom. I am nowhere as good as most of you, but I am learning ;). This is the reason I am on the forums with 22k games. I am here to learn, not shout out less than intelligent replies to sound advice. I will read everything this man has to offer me. I will also try to take it to heart. It is sound advice. If you come here to tear down someone who is just trying to help you, then my friend you have missed the point. Good luck to you Lert and thank you for all of your effort.
Jules

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