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I believe they do not matter Edit* AS much and here is why:

1. assumption: Better opinions come from those with the most understanding of the situation.
2. assumption: Those that understand the situation perform better.
3. People who perform better win more games.
4. The more games you win, the better the understanding you demonstrate.
5. Therefore; the more games you win the better your opinion is.
(just giving this style a shot)

When you ask for a medical opinion who is more qualified to provide a correct answer?
1. Your best friend.
2. Your mother.
3. a family doctor.
4. a doctor that specialises in your area of inquiry.

I hope you would take the advise from person #4 with more confidence than the rest.
In WoT the qualification is player skill. In order to be skilled you have to understand the situation. Those without skill do not have an understanding of the situation and without being able to understand the situation how can you provide a reliable opinion? If you know nothing or next to nothing about the subject your opinion doesn't mean alot, or at least to me it doesn't.

Let's correlate W/R to a test, say 60%=A, 50%=C, 40%=F. On this test who do you think shows the most understanding of the subject?

It's quite possible I have a bunch of holes in this theory, but the only one I can see right now is if people don't believe qualification=understanding and understanding=skill.

Also just to bring this into perspective with a few more examples.
When it comes to balance, a skilled players opinion matters more.   The Lorraine is OP,  The T14 is balanced
When it comes to your opinion, your opinion matters most.   I loved playing my M3 Lee, Blowing up tanks is fun
Edited by BashNSmash, Jul 31 2012 - 09:20.

so garbad is right and arty requires no skill.
duh. so can we remove arty now? (let the -1s roll on in, though that is my opinion :P.)

Stephen Hawking understands sports. I don't see him hitting home runs or dunking.

I may not be great at this game, mostly due to dexterity/reflex issues, but do not take my lack of agility to imply a lack of understanding. I'd like to think that after >25 years of gaming and >30 as a computer geek, I know a few things about gaming, rules, and computer gaming. And given my success in turn-based strategy games that do not exploit my issues with "twitch" games, I am pretty sure I am correct.

But if you wish to disregard my opinion as an experienced gamer with a military background just because you have a higher win rate at WoT than I do, well, I can't do anything about that.... except shake my head and chuckle.

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I guess if you can't shoot the message, then shoot the messenger?

OP pull that stick out yer arse why don't ya? Everyone should be able to voice an opinion. Even those with 5 matches total should be allowed to voice their opinion on a subject. Even someone who has yet to play the game should be able to voice an opinion on many subjects.

Stats do not matter, nor are they indicative of anything other than your need to have an e-peen. You want to know why your opinion does not matter to me? Because someone who can not figure this out probably is not worth listening to in the first place.

The issue i've seen before is not about who's opinion matters, but in who's data you use. If you balance based on what a small sub set of the player base can achieve, you aren't balancing for what the rest can achieve. This is especially evident early in a tanks career when only those with a big chunk of free xp get the new tanks. This subset of players also has demonstrably better WR than the rest of the player base. In other words, should you balance a tank based on the results of the top players or the average ones?

 Eschaton, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:10, said:

Military background means NOTHING in this game,, not a thing.  Just cause someone may have been in the military doesnt make them good at this game, not at all. Silly misconception..

The devs don't care about good players or bad players opinions...they care about global tank stats. So you all can fight over who they should ignore the most.

 Eschaton, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:10, said:

Could not have said it better myself. A good sportsman does not necessarily make a good coach. Ability and understanding are not the same.

I would on balance expect a better player to have a better understanding but an average player and good understanding of the game are not mutually exclusive. Essentially play the ball not the man.

 Starzfan, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:20, said:

yes cause that is exactly what Eschaton said. Nothing about having many years of gaming experience or the like. I mean really. You post a comment like that just after starting a thread whining about the mods picking on you for no reason. I'd suggest they pick on you cause you deserve it.

Next time you are thinking of posting please engage your brain. It gets rusty if you don't use it.
Edited by BasilBrush, Jul 31 2012 - 07:28.

 Starzfan, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:20, said:

True; just having worn the uniform does not make you an expert at WoT. For instance, Air Force and Navy people learn nothing of proper use of cover, overlapping fields of fire, or the specific type of teamwork required to succeed at this sort of game, and your 0311s and 11Bs are not going to be as good at this as 19Ks, but both often have an advantage over casual gamers... or potato-peeling PFCs.

 BasilBrush, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:26, said:

Thank you, but I actually have to agree. I served with people who didn't know tactics from thumbtacks.

 Starzfan, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:20, said:

He wasn't saying it made him good at this game. He was saying it meant he could make valid comments on balance. You missed the whole point of his post.

The game can't be balanced round the best players, because they are very few.

 Eschaton, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:10, said:

 Ezz, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:20, said:

That is a very good point, and I made the assumption that balance is for what the tank can achieve which is more aptly demonstrated by better players.
Edited by BashNSmash, Jul 31 2012 - 07:38.

every opinion matters, but not every opinion carries the same weight. experience tends to lend more to validity.

 prince_machiavelli, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:32, said:

I would have thought those who served would have been taught in great detail how to make a combat situation as 'imbalanced' as possible.

For mine opinions should be based on an understanding of the necessary mechanics. If there happens to be a strong correlation between that knowledge and WR, then fair enough. If that correlation can't be demonstrated, then it's hard to argue for a high WR opinion being and more or less valid than a scrub's.

To take your poor logic further.

I have played more games than you,  and therefore I am better qualified to comment than you.  Your "limited" amount of gameplay makes your comments irrelevant and your opions don't matter.

 dwaindwarf, on Jul 31 2012 - 07:40, said:

can't quite beat that number of games. but past 5k games nowadays, you pretty much are considered far up on the tree for veterancy.

I would say you are pushing a bit too far on your idea that win % = rank. I would say that the # of games played will give you more respect in your opinions, but one's opinions should never be looked down upon just because some numbers in your profile say 40%. Because, to be honest, win % means nothing in the real world. In saying so, a person's opinions are valued in the real world. No matter how awful a person may perform in this game, doesn't mean you can invalidate his/her opinions judging from their ranks. So in conclusion, I believe experience (# of battles) should validate a person's opinions about balance. Just my opinion .
Edited by kllp101, Jul 31 2012 - 07:42.

Bash the devs made it clear none of our opinions count at all.  First they said their own internal testing, not test servers with regular players on them, determine their "balance" decisions.  Also, rad up on imperfect balance:  the target must always be moving to keep the game fresh and the playerbase hopping.  Third,  NA servers are less than 2 % of their world playerbase.