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soluuloi #1 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:06

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So, where is the source which the devs said they will god damn tone back PzIV? And what with "tone back"? If it is a nerf then call it a nerf, the devs have already ignored every complain about german tanks, why should they start caring people may call them "russia bias" now? No joke, not that you may care, but I totally lost hope in the devs. First with the awesome "buff" on E-100 then the justice nerf on E-50 and now, this.

In every god damn patch, german tanks are nerfed, here and there, together with french tanks. Meanwhile, in every patch, Ussr tanks are buffed, and a certain tank name Kv-4 is buffed twice in a row. What? Kv-4 was buffed after it first appearance. If they nerf/buff tanks base on winrate so where the hell they get Kv-4's winrate when it is totally new? We got 7.3 for 3 weeks and they already declared they will buff Kv-4. No joke? And even after E-50 nerf in 7.4, E-50's winrate actually got higher. Why dont they learn that winrate doesnt reflect the damn true ability of a tank? Oh, I understand now, because the first nerf wasnt enough, they will just give it another nerf in 7.5. They sure are consistent on lowering E-50 winrate! Wait, E-50 winrate is already low, like...second worst! Why nerf it more and more? Hey, to whoever are playing E-50 right now, make sure you try your best with E-50. I really want to see what will happen if E-50 winrate doesnt get lower in 7.5. I bet you want to know too, right?

Meanwhile, in Russia, they totally ignore the low winrate of Amx40, JpzIV and B2! Wow! Totally no russian bias! ST-I is buffed? Hahahaha, ST-I's armor is already on par with E-75 while it's gun is already better than E-75's gun. Now you buff the rof, the hp and los. Hahaha, when an Ussr tank player failed to learn how to drive the tank, they dont have to worry about it because the devs will just buff the tank. Meanwhile, anyone who drives German tanks, America tanks, French tanks will have to live with their tanks and learn how to endure the learning curve. Thanks you, devs!!

Hey devs! You said we should work harder? Why dont you left Kv-3, Kv-4, St-I and Is-4 like what they was in 7.4? Those who drive these tanks should work harder, right? Right? RIGHT!!????? NO! Because they are driving Ussr tanks! Someone mentioned KV-1 and PzIV are op in the MM, the devs replied:"We will nerf PzIV"...great....how about Kv-1? Let me check it again. KV is totally op so they nerf it into KV-1. KV-1 is fine before 7.5 and OP in 7.5...Meanwhile PzIV is bad in with KV around. After 7.3, PzIV is fine. In 7.5, PzIV is OP. So, the formula is:
KV-1: 2-1-0=1
PzIV: 0+1-1=0

Huh?
And E-100...Some guys said if you know how to drive E-100, you will love it. I dont know how to drive E-100 so I hate it. Whenever my team has E-100 as top tank, I give a sigh...like now. Whenever enemy team has E-100 as top tank, I gave a sigh too, but a sigh of relief. When they finally listen to use and give E-100 a buff...they give it a nerf too. Give it unnecessary buffs, give it unecessary nerfs....then call it a buff, lol. Think I am a whiner? Go read every damn topics in this box. Best tank for CW? Not E-100. Best heavy tank? Not E-100. Best German tier 10 heavy? Maus. Easiest to play line? Ussr and America. What line should I start with? Ussr. E-75 or Is-8? E-75 but you will want Is-8 because E-100 sucks and Is-7 is great. Should I get E-100 (my topic)? All of the replies said no.

Even more hillarious, a guy opened a topic name "How many tanks did you sell to buy E-100?" they call him stupid, mocking his IQ until he said "No, I mean JE-100, not the heavy E-100". And everyone gave an "Ahhhh! JE-100". I actually lol after reading that topic.

Wait for a second! They gave us the brand new German tech tree saying that there will be enough TDs to make four (yes, FOUR) TD lines. And they also give us the German second med line. The news is so big that every damn WG fanboy post a topic: "There is no German bias because they gave German the second med line and second Td line, now shut up, all of you whiners!". Okay, I am talking about you, Mow Mow.

Now? They are going to give us the second TD line of....Ussr. They gave us something to dream about then bash us with the reality they has already prepared a long time ago. Ohhhhhhhh, nice trolling! Wanna bet? The German second med line will just be sub-par to whatever their counterparts are. But I think you shouldnt, whenever I think "I have a bad vipe about it", it always becomes true.

From a troll name Ganegrei in this topic: http://forum.worldof...oooooooooooooo/

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Hmm the Panzer 4.  Same gun as the equivalent tier tank destroyer.  Better armor then most tier 6 tanks.  No, nothing that might be OP here.

No no no. NOBODY cry about PzIV is OP ever before! They (the trolls) only do it now when they know PzIV will be nerfed.

Ehem! The tank is already slow and the armor is totally none slope. It cant run away from trouble, cant bounce shots like a certain america med or run insanely around like ussr meds. All it has is the damn gun. Without it, tank is totally a joke, no more. And no, punk. PzIV doesnt use the gun of the same tier TD. It is the same tier TD using PzIV's gun. Dont understand what I said? Look at the damn Vk3601. And no, unlike stupid suicide scouters in the form of Ussr and America med tanks, we PzIV players dont rush in, giving enemy free exp and credits, lol.

The PzIV wont be nerfed because it is OP. It is nerfed because it can farm credits. Still not get it? Here is what I've already said in 7.5 test sub-box but since I couldnt find it so I will say it again:
_M4, E8 and E2 used to be everyone favorite credits farmers > they nerf it again and again...and again instead of buffing the other tanks's income. Someone asked the devs to buff other tanks's income instead of keep nerfing E2 and E8's income, I laughed at him.
_After M4 family's income is nerfed. KV became the new favorite credits farmer > oh lol, it is sliced into two piece, KV-1 and KV-2.
_After those previous tanks's income are nerfed. We still have Su-85. > Huh? Lose the awesome gun. What? Badass gun for it's tier? I am looking at you, Isu-152.
_After 7.5, the only possible credits farmer left is...guess who....PzIV! > you know what will happen to it in 8.0.

What I said in 7.5 test sub-box has became true.In the same topic, another guy said that he afraid that PzIV will be nerfed because he was getting great credits from it. Lol, I dont know if he read this topic or not but....Hey, you are totally right. And to Tanitha, when you said all of our ideals about the test will be sent to the devs...I didnt belive you, but now, I believe you with my whole heart. They actually read that topic and get the ideal of nerfing PzIV...All non-prem credits farmers will be nerfed.

After all, all I want to say is: they are really greedy and the russian bias is true.

My stats, in the case you think I am a troll: http://portal-wot.go...40731-soluuloi/

Edited by soluuloi, Aug 03 2012 - 16:34.


thundersaver #2 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:07

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 soluuloi, on Aug 03 2012 - 16:06, said:

So, where is the source which the devs said they will god damn tone back PzIV? And what with "tone back"? If it is a nerf then call it a nerf, the devs have already ignored every complain about german tanks, why should they start caring people may call them "russia bias" now?


http://forum.worldof...17#entry2374117

read this link, you will cry when you do.

Edited by thundersaver, Aug 03 2012 - 16:13.


Vladmir_Lemon #3 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:11

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Panzer IV will be toned back in version 8.0 which is in September.

iHuntTanks #4 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:11

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Do what I do, stop playing WoT seriously and **** around. Like arty, load up AP, charge out, smack the enemy team in THE FACE!!! then just die or something. Games are for you to have fun, and hey, even if some things are stupidly unfair/nerfed to hell, you can either live with it and say **** that nerf, or play a different tank, or just get lights/arty and muck around. I have a collection of light tanks, and they help me relieve my rage and **** at this game/lag/nerfs/teams. Usually.

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soluuloi #5 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:21

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 thundersaver, on Aug 03 2012 - 16:07, said:

http://forum.worldof...17#entry2374117

read this link, you will cry when you do.
What? He said Kv-1 is good to op too but the devs only mention PzIV? Mindblown! And work harder? As if we haven worked hard enough. If they think grinding stock tiger is fun, they are damn wrong.

Edited by soluuloi, Aug 03 2012 - 16:23.


Spanisharmada #6 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:24

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Ok you haven't played a  single battle yet here u r

http://forum.worldof...17#entry2374117 link

thundersaver #7 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:28

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 Spanisharmada, on Aug 03 2012 - 16:24, said:

Ok you haven't played a  single battle yet here u r

http://forum.worldof...17#entry2374117 link

sorry you were ninja-ed

soluuloi #8 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:40

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 iHuntTanks, on Aug 03 2012 - 16:11, said:

Do what I do, stop playing WoT seriously and fuck around. Like arty, load up AP, charge out, smack the enemy team in THE FACE!!! then just die or something. Games are for you to have fun, and hey, even if some things are stupidly unfair/nerfed to hell, you can either live with it and say fuck that nerf, or play a different tank, or just get lights/arty and muck around. I have a collection of light tanks, and they help me relieve my rage and shit at this game/lag/nerfs/teams. Usually.
And you think I am not!? I drive E-75 daily! And because E-100 is so stupid so I play my low tier PzIV for fun! And I even have a 100% crew 38na for fun too! And they nerf my fun!! Amx12t, Amx F3 AM, E-75, the going-to-have E-50, PzIV, 38na...The only damn tank in my garage that havent been nerfed yet is 38na! I have already said F*** you to the nerf on E-75 and E-50 and also have other tanks to play yet they still dont stop!

Edited by soluuloi, Aug 03 2012 - 16:47.


Legiondude #9 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:50

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Well, this is.....terrible to hear

But I'll wait until I see the balance changes

Ganegrei #10 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:55

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Wow cross thread quoting.  I'm famous.  Famous!  As for the original poster, that is the sort of RAGE that shows up when somebodys favorite tank is threatned.  It is a golden rule of WoT to diversify and never get to attached to one vehicle because sooner or later it will get nerfed.

If u wanna farm credits, get a Churchill.

Edited by Ganegrei, Aug 03 2012 - 16:57.


soluuloi #11 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 16:58

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 Ganegrei, on Aug 03 2012 - 16:55, said:

If u wanna farm credits, get a Churchill.
Exactly what the devs want...+1 for you for spelling out the truth.

Krasnogor #12 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 17:13

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In russian server newbers whine about german's tech only =)

Germanfags must suffer © SerB

Ganegrei #13 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 17:21

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 soluuloi, on Aug 03 2012 - 16:58, said:

Exactly what the devs want...+1 for you for spelling out the truth.

What the devs want?  Like... To make money?  Yes I would say that is not unreasonable for a for-profit business.  And they are doing it in a way that enriches your game experience? How dare they!

WG aint perfect but they do not deserve the **** they get from NA players.

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By the way, what are you think about russian tank t-28? Is it buffed? or may be t-43? May be A-20? T-150, KV-3, KV-1S?

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 Krasnogor, on Aug 03 2012 - 17:35, said:

By the way, what are you think about russian tank t-28? Is it buffed? or may be t-43? May be A-20? T-150, KV-3, KV-1S?
A monster, one of my best matches is with it, dont know why there are so many complains about it. Rip higher tier tanks like a boss, send same and lower tier tanks to hell in 1 or 2 hits. Piff, it has a gun that being used by a tier 5 heavy tank which is also it's child. A tier 4 that has a gun is on par with PzIV's gun. That is it's problem. PzIV never have that much power against same, lower or higher tanks. See? PzIV is fine for it's tier. T-28, KV and Su-85 have uber guns even the higher tanks dont have. The nerf to T-28 brings it back to it's tier. PzIV's nerf (unless they nerf the turret which is fine anyway, not gonna bounce anything with it actually) will bring it down to underpower.

I say, give PzIV the historical turret, that is all they can do to nerf it and still dont make it underpower. Any nerf on the gun will make it stupidly weak.

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WG aint perfect but they do not deserve the **** they get from NA players.
Yes, they are. In the case you dont know. I have been lurking around for awhile. They are certainly not welcome here, not welcome in EU either. Even in Vietnamese WoT, they are also not welcome. And there is a reason why people from nearly over the world do not like the way they run WoT.

Edited by soluuloi, Aug 03 2012 - 18:37.


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 soluuloi, on Aug 03 2012 - 18:33, said:

A monster, one of my best matches is with it, dont know why there are so many complains about it. Rip higher tier tanks like a boss, send same and lower tier tanks to hell in 1 or 2 hits. Piff, it has a gun that being used by a tier 5 heavy tank which is also it's child. A tier 4 that has a gun is on par with PzIV's gun. That is it's problem. PzIV never have that much power against same, lower or higher tanks. See? PzIV is fine for it's tier. T-28, KV and Su-85 have uber guns even the higher tanks dont have. The nerf to T-28 brings it back to it's tier. PzIV's nerf (unless they nerf the turret which is fine anyway, not gonna bounce anything with it actually) will bring it down to underpower.

I say, give PzIV the historical turret, that is all they can do to nerf it and still dont make it underpower. Any nerf on the gun will make it stupidly weak.

Just two days ago i sold my PzIV - that was awesome tank. 52 battles and 63 tanks was destroyed (sorry for my english - is not a native) - I like this tank.

But if you want to ask developers - use my topic, i will translate to the russian and ask on a russian forum.

Edited by Krasnogor, Aug 03 2012 - 22:21.


soluuloi #17 Posted Aug 04 2012 - 02:15

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 Krasnogor, on Aug 03 2012 - 22:21, said:

Just two days ago i sold my PzIV - that was awesome tank. 52 battles and 63 tanks was destroyed (sorry for my english - is not a native) - I like this tank.

But if you want to ask developers - use my topic, i will translate to the russian and ask on a russian forum.
Thanks. Just tell them not to joke around with the gun. That is enough. If you can, copy my whole post and show them, it is even better.

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read your whole post.


+666

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Meh, if they would just buff the L48 close to the US M1A1, I'd be OK with even losing the L70..... that would help the III/IV and the stock VKs, and then the Hetzer wouldn't have to mount a derp to be useful.