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[87thCavRecon]

Hey yall. I've noticed with the last couple of patches with new maps that
I don't see the new maps very often. I'm always getting the old maps
and only see the new ones once in every 10-20 battles. I'd definitely like to
at least go through the entire map rotation without seeing the same old maps
over and over again. Anyone else experiencing this?

[theasshat84]

yes only seen one of the new maps twice since the patch dropped.

[nui_vu]

i`ve been on them a lot today but only on one map highway nothing else

[SolidBeer]

I've seen only one of the new maps. I think it's Highway. I hope to see the others this weekend...but who knows.

[Legiondude]

We've got 30 maps ATM, so that's a 3.333% chance of you hitting one specific map. Hitting any of the new maps, for a combined probability of 9-10%. However if you take in how random the Matchmaker is, the chances are drastically decreased.

Back in 7.4, it took me a week and a half to see Wide Park the first time. It's just luck of the draw, you'll see em eventually

[SgtCain]

Yes, I have experienced this before.. It's a big mix game with the maps for me... I stay on the old maps for 10-15 battles, and then go to the new maps for 5-10

[Treetop64]

Generally, the more maps that become available, the less often individual maps will appear.  It took a while before I saw any of the new maps.

[Tebbie]

Yeah I played for 4 straight hours last night no new maps, I'm not sure if the random is random because I only ever see certain maps anyhow for example, those dunes, campnovka and that map with the hill and tracks in assault.

Edited by Tebbie, Aug 03 2012 - 23:20.

[loadedhorn75]

 Tebbie, on Aug 03 2012 - 23:19, said:

Yeah I played for 4 straight hours last night no new maps, I'm not sure if the random is random because I only ever see certain maps anyhow for example, those dunes, campnovka and that map with the hill and tracks in assault.

Yes exactly! I'm eager for something new. 50+ games and repeat repeat. It is so repetitve anymore in my experiance. I use T3 to T7 and always the same maps it seems. Gonna hope for them tonight!

[eisen1973]

I miss Dragon Ridge...where is it now? I play tanks from  Tier 3 to VIII and never get it.

[Sezmu]

I have only seen each of the new maps once since patch. I have seen plenty of the old maps 5+ times. Guess it keeps me from getting sick of them too quickly.

[Fuz]

IT's worse than that for me. I've seen exactly one of the new maps since the patch, while I get the same old ones over and over and over. I don't even get a variety of the old ones. Out of 8 games just now, 6 of them were Erlenburg and Ensk twice! Why would it be so hard to switch from totally random to a rotation through? You would still miss some because you would be playing when their rotation came up, but at least it wouldn't be the same map over and over and over and over and over and over

[Hoss1193]

 Legiondude, on Aug 03 2012 - 20:33, said:

We've got 30 maps ATM, so that's a 3.333% chance of you hitting one specific map. Hitting any of the new maps, for a combined probability of 9-10%. However if you take in how random the Matchmaker is, the chances are drastically decreased.

Back in 7.4, it took me a week and a half to see Wide Park the first time. It's just luck of the draw, you'll see em eventually

I've played 203 battles in the four days since 7.5 went live.  Based on that, probability would suggest that I should've seen a new map (Serene, Port, Highway) roughly 18-20 times,  each map about 6 times.  It's been about half that.

Port: 5
Highway: 4
Serene Coast: 1

Some possible explanations:

a)  Just randomness.  Probability predicts most likely outcomes, not actual outcomes.  The smaller the sample size (203 is still pretty tiny), the more likely actual outcomes will vary a great deal.  This idea would imply, however, that there's a few folks out there who are getting these maps a TON, like 20-30% of the time.  Somehow I just don't think that is happening.

b)  Some maps are just more likely to come up than others, because of available server resources.  I'm no expert on this stuff, but my understanding is that the smaller maps (Himmel, Malinovka, etc) tend to come up more often anyway...and always have.  The newer maps are pretty big; this may drive them to come up less often.  This isn't really a 7.5 thing.

c)  MM formula.  This is more a question really, I don't know how this works.  When selecting battle/map, does MM choose the Map first and then determine from among the available battle modes for that map, or the other way around?  If MM randomly chooses the mode first, then that will limit the appearance of maps for which only Standard Battle is available.

All in all, I like the new maps.  They're certainly all visually appealing.  Port and Highway seem to offer interesting tactical challenges and opportunities, and avoid "bottleneck" stalemates.  I just don't know about Serene, I've only played it once (although it was good battle).

[SirBarnick]

Like everyone else I rarely see the new maps.  200 games and I've seen Highway twice and Serene Coast once.

The actual reason you don't see many of the new maps probably has more to do with the new game modes than anything else.

Supposedly there is a 30% chance you will get a new game mode battle.  Since there are only so many maps available to those you will tend to see those maps a lot more often (Sand River, El Halluf, Malinovka, etc).

The remaining 70% of the standard games are divided equally among ALL the maps, so you will still see the same maps from new game modes as well as the remaining maps.

This ends up with me seeing El Halluf about 3-4 times a night, but I can go days without seeing Westfield or any of the new maps.

[Katukov]

I used to remember each rock on the maps. Now It is always new to where to go..

looks like I am lucky,
I saw
Port: 4
Highway: 2
Serene Coast: 2

[rustyshackelford3000]

I was just thinking this.  I have been on two of the three maps so far.  Only once each that is with about 7-8 hours played since the update.

[Volacious]

I wonder if the game modes throw off the map percentages - ie since only certain maps have encounter or assault, we see those more often than the others.

[archre]

Port: 3
Highway: 0
Serene Coast: 0

[Yankee]

too busy playing Sand River and Malinovka Assault...

[NavySnipers]

I've played them all.

Serene coast 5

Port 3

Highway 3