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jasonvoorheesrevenge #1 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:23

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what are the differences in the 2 tanks?

which one is better? im on the kv-1 which is the point to turn into the is-7 so im curious on to which one is better.

MVCXNZIX #2 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:27

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IS-4 is a defensive tank and the IS-7 (IMO) is designed for brawling, so it really depends on your play style. However, I prefer the IS-7

Wind2008 #3 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:28

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IS-4 has a more balanced armor scheme(read: it has decent armor everywhere but nowhere is great), a more accurate/higher pen gun and more HP.

The IS-7 has extreme frontal armor but low side/rear armor, is faster and has a less accurate/lower pen gun with a significant damage boost.

The general consensus is that the IS-4 is too far into the "jack of all trades" role and can't find as good of a place on the battle field as most other tier 10s. The IS-7 is a great medium/heavy hybrid tank but if you really don't want to play something like that the IS-4 line has more KV-like heavy armored but slow beasts for you.

USMCE5 #4 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:30

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after all the neffing the IS-4 is a peace of junk the is -7 is a very good tank

dsnoman #5 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:31

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It comes down to playstyle. The IS line is more mobile meaning less armored. And the KV line is more amor less mobility.  Id say the firepower is similar per tier.

If youre into faster tanks that can flank and still pack an amazing punch then the IS line is for you. That's what i did.

Lucyfur #6 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:32

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If you listen to the majortiy of 7.5 related posts, the T-62 is your best option.   :Smile_veryhappy:

IS-7 is preferred by most people.  IS-4 has had problems with its armor model in the past, allegedly resolved by the last two patches.  The IS-4 has the same gun as the IS-8 and the ST-1.  It is similar to the T110 gun in that it fires quickly and has very high pen.  The IS-7 is faster than the IS-4 and more likely to bounce shots from its front.  The IS-7 does more damage per round (but not necessarily per game).

I like them both, but they both face challenges in this new world of tier ten mediums.  It's not clear what your best non-medium option is at this time in terms of tank companies or clan wars play.  For random matches, choose the one that best fits your style.  The IS-3 is a must-have for champion tank company  battles and it's on the line to the IS-7 which is the more popular of the two.  If you like the IS-3, you will like the IS-7.  If you find the IS-3 to be "meh," then stop there and play it in champs only and head toward the IS-4.  The KV-4 is like a tier 8 Russian maus.  It's a completely different experience.

Axis_General #7 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:34

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Something else to consider is the IS4 has 350 more hit points and a gun that pens at up to 500mm when using gold. I chose it over the IS7 anyday in a clan war fight

jasonvoorheesrevenge #8 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:37

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I love the kv-1... so I think ill go for the is-4 for that reason.. but if the is-7 has more armor... hmm.. that means something...

jasonvoorheesrevenge #9 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:44

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so is-4 has a more powerful gun, but less armor and speed?

dsnoman #10 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:48

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Is4 has more armor and less speed. But the gun has more pen less alpha then the is7s gun.

jasonvoorheesrevenge #11 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:49

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hmm ok so is-4 sounds great. ty

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Grind wise IS-7 is better.

At tier 6 you have choice between T-150 and KV-1S. T-150 basically sucks, KV-1S is quite a monster with its long 122mm. KV-1S is much easier to use due to very good mobility.
At tier 7 you have slow KV-3 and nimble IS. Tho both share exactly same firepower, IS-7 line yet again provides supreme mobility over IS-4 line.
At tier 8 you have slow KV-4, which is horrible to upgrade, and fast IS-3, where you can mount top cannon on stock tank. Tho KV-4 have extreme armor and IS-3 have almost none, you gain one of best heavy tank in terms of mobility ( only IS-8 is better and runing around ).
At tier 9 you will realize that IS-7 line is better as first line. IS-8 can use BL-9 from IS-3 on stock tank, and then it can use its own top cannon also without any other upgrade. In meantime ST-1 share no upgrades with KV-4, you start with same 122mm as on KV-3/IS and have to grind first for BL-9, then for tracks and turret befire you can even dream of mounting top cannon.
At tier 10 you ahve IS-4 and IS-7, slowpoke IS-4 is dependent on sittuation while IS-7 is more universal machine.

In overall, IS-7 line is both easier to use and easier to upgrade, also even at tier 8 * IS-3 ) it can easily bring income, IS-8 can still land on even in hands of good player. IS-7 is good tank for starter in Clan Wars.

ehetzel #13 Posted Aug 03 2012 - 23:58

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This is from seeing them perform in CW and such.

IS-4: Great defensive tank, too slow and not enough frontal armor to push, but faster than pre-7.3. Good accuracy on the gun and decent RoF. Lower alpha damage. Mostly obsoleted by the new medium tanks and TD's

IS-7: Better offensive tank, faster, more agile, ok acceleration, much better frontal armor. Alpha damage is great for finishing off tanks. Penetration is good, accuracy and aimtime is poor compared to the other Tier 10's, and the RoF is slow. Great for leading a push. Very powerful when grouped with mediums, T110E5's, or other IS-7's.

You should have the 2nd gun already researched on the IS-4 when you get it from either the ST-1 or the IS-8 if your going up both lines.

Edited by ehetzel, Aug 04 2012 - 00:03.


Agentice #14 Posted Aug 04 2012 - 00:03

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Nether, go get the T110.

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Edited by Agentice, Aug 04 2012 - 00:04.


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If we examine this from a CW perspective the IS4 is a much more useful tank.

With the advent of higher DPM/mobile mediums and TDs the IS7 is pretty much worthless and a last resort sort of tank. It already had assumed this role since the introduction of the T110 and the latest patch was the final nail. The gun is just not accurate enough and the alpha advantage no longer has its dominance that it once enjoyed. Armor in CW is pretty much a moot point with gold flying around. The IS-4 HP pool is useful as a mobile varient of the maus with the added advantage of having an accurate high pen gun.

T110s MIGHT still be used in a support role but the mediums and TDs pretty much make heavies just HP pools with the IS4 and Maus being used as needed.

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Nether, go get the T110.

I don't think you understand, for someone who has 399 battles, it's just not that simple...

Yes, the T110E5 is much better, it's overpowered, the only thing that makes it "balanced" is the paper side armor and it's tumor.

jasonvoorheesrevenge #17 Posted Aug 04 2012 - 00:10

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so is-7 is better... hmmm thats great! ok ill go for the kv-1s next then

jasonvoorheesrevenge #18 Posted Aug 04 2012 - 00:11

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hmmm.... I think is-7.. more alpha dmg.... plus the pens from russian guns are already great.

DarkElf #19 Posted Aug 04 2012 - 00:26

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IS7 better, good frontal armor, bit more agility, but worse side and rear armor. IS4 armor is better on paper but against decent player, it's easier to pen than IS7 frontal armor.

I prefer tank that have 1 dependable armor (frontal) than tank with 4 average side armor.

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View Postehetzel, on Aug 04 2012 - 00:06, said:

I don't think you understand, for someone who has 399 battles, it's just not that simple...

Yes, the T110E5 is much better, it's overpowered, the only thing that makes it "balanced" is the paper side armor and it's tumor.

I dont think you understand.

Armor means less in CW