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MaxxFlieger #1 Posted Aug 08 2012 - 23:19

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It is an awful tank... I tried to like it, I really did as I like playing tds, but this POS tank is quickly becoming just like the E100... sold.  More often than not shells bounce, or hit for no dmg, and only track the other tanks with no dmg.  I shot a bat chat 3 times, tracked him twice, and he was still at half hp, luckily arty finished him off before he raped me.  Shot the side of a 704 twice.. tracked twice, no dmg done.  However one game... just one game I shot 3 tanks and all were one shots.. that was the only fun I had in this POS until I got circled jerked by a patton.  It's a huge arty magnet, a few games I lasted 1-2 mins on maps that don't provide cover.  What kind of tank has to hide behind buildings ALL the Fing time?  And has to have it's own entourage of support tanks?  Not surprisingly it also has the worst win rate compared to the other tier 10 TDs.  Totally not worth it, and I'm sure it'll still get nerfed as it's German.

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It is worth it, I like it a lot

talos2789 #3 Posted Aug 08 2012 - 23:41

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u are either getting bad luck or u just suck although i will admitt it is one of the more difficult tds to play

jacione #4 Posted Aug 08 2012 - 23:51

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you have 22 battles in it, also, the fact that you got circle jerked by a patton means you were doing something wrong, this thing has tiger long 88 accuracy, so snipe! that gun has 299 pen, and can 2 shot IS-7's, it has a long reload, just sit behind cover for your reload and then take the shot, never shoot at tanks lower than 300 HP unless absolutely necessary.

tbh im disturbed you even compared it to the E-100's 15 cm gun, were talking 60 more pen, thats a lot. this thing cant take too many hits, so staying hidden is key.

Tigertracks #5 Posted Aug 09 2012 - 00:48

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I have to agree this is a very poor tier 10.  Doubtful it will see much play in clan wars, at least mine won't.

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View Postjacione, on Aug 08 2012 - 23:51, said:

you have 22 battles in it, also, the fact that you got circle jerked by a patton means you were doing something wrong, this thing has tiger long 88 accuracy, so snipe! that gun has 299 pen, and can 2 shot IS-7's, it has a long reload, just sit behind cover for your reload and then take the shot, never shoot at tanks lower than 300 HP unless absolutely necessary.

tbh im disturbed you even compared it to the E-100's 15 cm gun, were talking 60 more pen, thats a lot. this thing cant take too many hits, so staying hidden is key.

No, it really doesn't.
Shooting an IS7 from more than 250m is futile. Doubly so when considering the low RNG rolls that tend to frequent this gun.
Can potentially 2 shot an IS7, again, low RNG for pen and damage makes this wishful thinking.

Death187 #7 Posted Aug 09 2012 - 01:48

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It is growing on me the more I play it. I have had very good success with it tonight.

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View PostDeath187, on Aug 09 2012 - 01:48, said:

It is growing on me the more I play it. I have had very good success with it tonight.
It will let you down tomorrow, no doubt.

Lost another 2% win rate today.

Death187 #9 Posted Aug 09 2012 - 03:16

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View Postteamoldmill, on Aug 09 2012 - 01:55, said:

It will let you down tomorrow, no doubt.

Lost another 2% win rate today.

Lol. I had a 6 kill match, a 4 kill, and a few other decent ones. It was def a good night. You are right though, who knows what will happen tomorow lol.

MaxxFlieger #10 Posted Aug 09 2012 - 05:09

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I can assure you I don't suck at TDs, I tried different play styles with this tank.  And stay hidden?  That's an oxymoron with this tank, you can't hide anywhere... maybe behind arty, or a building but what's the point.  Again I'm trying to like this tank, but it lets me down, I'd rather get the JT and Ferdi back that I sold for this POS.  I'm sure you won't see as many complaints about the 268 or either T110 TDs, this tank is just another joke piece given by WG.  German tanks in WW2 excelled at camo, but yet are the worst in this game.  Perhaps it's the RNG at it's worse, from 1 shotting an IS7 to 0 dmg hits to a batchat, it'd be nice to have a little more consistancey with the shots, and a bit more survivabilty.   I'll play a bit more in it, but it's gotta kiss and make up for me to like it, but as it stands, I think it;s worth more to grind another TD tank line.  Hopefully the second German TD line will make up for this blunder.

Czechman #11 Posted Aug 09 2012 - 06:55

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after almost 100 battles in the JPE100 I am retiring it until they improve at least one of the following, barrel depression, traverse speed, ROF, accuracy over 300 meters, pen no damage, camo. I transferred my JT crew over to the JPE 4th skill at 80%, big mistake. I've gone back to my jgdpanther and Ferdy to have fun again.

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Royal_Sovereign #12 Posted Aug 09 2012 - 08:19

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1 kill and a lose = 25k repairs and 22k of ammo with 16k earned

Too much for ammo even with a win its like 2kills and you barely make costs

This is with a gold account

SkttLes #13 Posted Aug 09 2012 - 09:21

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I'd rather have the gun on my M48 than the 170mm in ANY situation. Seriously, put that 105 on the chassis of any TD in the game and give it 2200 hitpoints, I'll take it over this tank, no question. In the JgPzE100 I probably deal damage with less than half of my shells; my damage per battle is lower than my Jagdtiger, and only slightly higher than the T95. I deal around the same damage in a typical match using this gun than I do using a tank which has a max speed of 13km/h. That's just atrocious.

3mil is a lot to throw away, and it is the only thing stopping me from selling this tank, for now. I will keep it for a while and keep using it, but I feel like a tier 10 version of the jpgzIV with it. It is in dire need of buffs.

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It is a good tank, but may not good enough to compare to other T10...
anyway, the RNG for this tank is really too bad

gPatton71 #15 Posted Aug 09 2012 - 12:36

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I'm enjoying the tank but no doubt something must change. Personally I think acu and aim time are our biggest issues but depression does suck as well. However I think if we get better acu, aim time, and dispersion we hit allot less tracks and can aim to hit spots of a tank more then just a tank. I hope it helps because no doubt the amount of criticals with no damage happens on this tank ALLOT more then any other tank I've played. I sometime wonders if its because of the high pen value.

As far as arty goes. Well I play this tank like a do a maus. Except I refuse to play alone. This tank has to long a reload to hold a line by itself. I look it as im the guy who tells you what tank to target. When I hit a is7 for almost half his health then all the meds and heavies need to finish him off and get his gun out of the game. I honestly hardly ever get killed by arty as well. All it comes down to is patience, knowledge and refusal to be baited into the open. I play with what this TD gives me I don't try to make into something I want it to be. I've also got to say I've never bounced as many shells in this tank then I have of any other tank I've played including my maus.

People can call us German cry babies but I think this may be one of the best examples of a tank being nerfed in the test and it seriously hurting the tank to a point it's going to be 3-5 points below the other tds released on win rates. People will always say well look at its one shot damage but its not enough. We miss to often, bounce to often, and critical to often. We need back some of the gun stats they took away. It would also be nice to get some top tanks that weren't slow as hell btw LOL.

Death187 #16 Posted Aug 20 2012 - 16:43

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If anyone wants some help with the JPE check out Death'sArrow's new video.



Zidaen #17 Posted Aug 20 2012 - 18:50

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It's not a bad tank. The issue comes from training. The JagdTiger forced us into a specific playstyle and that playstyle I love.

The tough part is when you hold a line and a is7, t1105/4/3 take your 1000dmg hit and rush you in the long reload. You need a spot where they cannot get past you or you need your target to back off.

I am glad I kept my Jtiger with the crew.

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Glythe #18 Posted Aug 21 2012 - 21:38

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The J100 has the worst 299 penetration gun I've ever seen. It's a complete joke.

Armor is fine...... traverse is fine..... mobility is fine..... But the gun makes you hate the tank because it does not penetrate like it should.

Rokuzachi #19 Posted Aug 22 2012 - 18:10

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Some people do fine in it. But there are always good players that do well in crappy tanks.

The stats so far for the thing are showing that overall it is under performing, despite what individual opinions of enjoyment may be.

Glythe #20 Posted Aug 22 2012 - 23:53

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The J100 will always underperform compared to the other tier 10 TDs because the gun is pathetic by comparison (which is really sad). I mean the biggest gun on a tank in the entire game is crap because you need gold in order to reliably penetrate enemies. The E3, E4, and 268 do not have that problem.

The J100 cannot remain with accuracy worse than .3 OR minimum penetration of 225 if it is expected to be viable in any shape or form.