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I've had them for a while, but only recently did i pull them out to play again. I used to have a lot of fun in them, but lately,
I'm finding that the Tetr gets spotted too easily and then killed, while the gun is good but can't see anyone properly.

and
T-127 is hard to pen enemies, while they have an easy time flanking the T-127. The frontal armor is good but everything else sucks.

So... I'm looking for help on playing these tanks and also... is it just me or have they been nerfed heavily since Jan/Feb?

I have not noticed any differences in them...  I put a set of binos on my tetrarch and a camo net.. then you can kinda snipe with it..  t-127 just sucks imo... I only keep that tank because I got it for free in a promo code or whatever..

Naw, neither have been nerfed that I know of.  The Tetrarch is a sort of Early defense system type of tank, you have to use its 63KPH speed to get to where you "think" the enemy will be and then use your amazing RoF and pen to dispatch as much as you can before being blown away, the Tet is a pretty amazing T2.  The Tetrarch DOES NOT Flank n spank, NOR shoot on the move for crap.  Its overall gun dispersion is pretty avg imo and it misses alot if your crew is not 100%, and even at 100% it is still pretty inaccurate.  You must know the map, know the approaches and ambush enemy tanks to do really well.  Also, PLATOON with anothe Tetrarch and it becomes almost unfair.

I realized the Tet had bad vision so I got Recon on my cmdr for 2% and an optic for 10%.  Also, its 50K, if you can swing it, BUY A VENTILIATION on the Tet.  It is hard to justify doing, but buying a GLD for the tet also helps a bit with its very slow responsive gun.  I bought my Gear on a 50% off equipment day.  With a tet if you find yourself in a peekaboo game, make very small movements back n forth when you move so that your bloom doesnt go wild.  Try to get your enemy to move, once your enemy moves, you just stop and lay into them with your RoF....The Tetrarch is an amazing tank, ive racked up countless wins and kills in it...platooned its simply MURDER!

With the Tet, just always keep in mind your gun is deadly but slow to respond, do everything you can to ensure your own reticule is less bloomed then the enemy.  DO NOT STOP and try to duke it out with a tank who has ambushed you on the run.  Keep an eye on the map, if you see a tank coming down an alley your near, STOP, AIM, WAIT, RAPE!

T-127....ive got nothing on this tank, but from watching it in a few battles, it sure as hell seems like its one hellva a bad bitch.
Edited by KnightFandragon, Aug 11 2012 - 18:41.

Da, I flank poor T-127s when in my BT-2. I make sure their engaged and flank them. The armor is pretty decent thru, I see the T-127 bouce shot off the B1, D2, or the Somua S35. And its gun is decent to.

The T-127 has been "nerfed" by the 7.5 matchmaker.  It now sees tier 5's where it never saw anything above a tier 4 before the 7.5 update.  I stopped playing mine until they fix it.  It is a Gift Shop item now and I don't recommend anyone buying it until they fix the matchmaking for the T-127.

Well, I got Vents for both tanks. I run binocs on my tetr, I may try the GLD. I keep trying to flank and spank, so that may be were I'm doing wrong. I've got 95% crew on my Tet. The first skills will be Mentor and Camo.

On the T-127, I think its just the shock of seeing tier 5s now... I was in a couple of lower tier battles  (Tier 3, 4) and it did ok. Hard to pen a Sherman tank though.

Tet doesnt Flank n spank at all, your dispersion on the move wont allow you to hit the Erlenberg Castle.  If your goingto do anything, circle strafe at VERY close range, that is as "on the move" as you can be and have any hopes of hitting.  Using the Tet's speed to plug gaps in your defenses works well to get heaps of kills and wins as well.  See a flank falling?  Roll up into the enemy's rear and blow them to hell.  Just gotta make sure you beat the enemy whereever your going...good map awareness is helpful to success in the Tet.
Edited by KnightFandragon, Aug 11 2012 - 21:14.

i heard they are going to fix the MM for the T-127, but i could be wrong.

with the tetra, i run it as a rapid defense unit sometimes. i support other tanks by flanking and annoying the other players. i have, in the past, played havoc in my tetra because people underestimated it. allowing me to slip in the backfield and distract. just play it like a paper tank with a big gun. a GLD is a great idea, also if you have that crew just for the tetra go with off road king and any other skills that boost gun sighting on the move.

I finally decided on playing the Tetrarch as a sort of TD, scooting from bush to bush with camo net and Bino's. Does OK because in low tier battles everyone has bad dispersion and vision anyway, and when you hit it pens.

127 definitely has worse MM now, and is pretty much not worth playing. You have neither gun nor armor nor speed to accomplish anything VS T4/T5 every single match...so mine sits.

I sent a support ticket in on the change to the T-127 and this was the f'd up reply:

Dear Player,

Thank you for contacting World Of Tanks support.

We are aware that this tank will now be placed in higher tier matches and this is due to balancing reasons.

However, the amount of tier 5 battles it should be placed in is a low percentage.

True to our matchmaker changes any tank can (excluding scouts and SPG's) will be placed within battles within a 2 tier gap.

if you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.


Best Regards,
Wayne Cartwright

World of Tanks Support
To reply, please log in at https://support.worldoftanks.com using your registered account email and password.

Anyone considering buying it should save their money, it is a joke now.

For its tier the Tet is a beast.  Best used to snipe with but can run and gun as well as brawl with most of the tier I/II tanks and come out on top.  I have a number of tanks I'm working on so my Tet usually only gets play during doubles.

My set up:

Crew: 100% (accelerated training is on)
Equipment: Vents/*GLD/Binocs
Consumables: Lg. Repair Kit/Lg. 1st Aid Kit/Lend Lease Oil
Skills:  #1) BIA, #2) Cammo, #3) Mentor/Snap Shot/Smooth Ride (not 100% yet)

Binocs + 100% Cammo Skill = see them 1st and get accused of being a hacker invisi-tank!
Vents + BIA + GLD + Snap Shot = superb aiming time while sniping.
Vents + BIA + Snap Shot + Smooth Ride = being able to run and gun effectively.
Vents + BIA + Lend Lease Oil = excellent acceleration, turning and speed (see also run and gun above).

Tactics:

Get to a good sniping spot and pick off as many tanks as you can.  Watch the mini-map and the team rosters so you know when to either a) pull back to a more defensive position, b) push forward aggressively, c) relocate to another sniping spot or d) go support the other flank.

*EDIT:  I mistakenly thought I had a Rammer on the Tet...My bad.  Its been several months since I've had access to the game and until I return to the States early next year I am unable to log into my account.  Sometimes I get my tanks set ups a bit confused.  Especially since I put the Vents and Rammer on just about every tank that will mount them
Edited by StormDagger, Aug 16 2012 - 18:02.

Storm, Tet? Rammer?  Last I knew it couldnt mount a rammer....I sure wish it could though.....Did I just miss it in the list?  Or is it something new?  my tet is running GLD, Vent, Optics....

KnightFandragon, on Aug 16 2012 - 16:49, said:

No, you are right.  Good call, I was mistaken.  See the edited post above for an explanation.

I'm not a fan of Optics on the Tet even if you go with Recon and Situational Awareness (besides which to have both you takes 2 skills on the Commander who is also the Radio Operator).  I feel the base view range is so limited that the very small buff you get from them isn't worth it.  And for sniping the Bino's are far superior even without the added skills.

StormDagger, on Aug 16 2012 - 17:38, said:

I have optics, recon on my Tet.  I was going for the view range and TD style, seeing how that is the best way ive found to play the Tet.  Get somewhere quickly using that 63kph and begin putting that high power gun to work....The Tet's otm acc is abysmal and its armor doesnt brawl well.  My next set of skills is prolly going ot be Camo...when I do move, I would love to see how well the thing can hide...seeing how lights get camo on the move.

My crew has offroad king, recon and snap shot, 7% Vstab is nice.  Goes along with that GLD to make the gun slightly more responsive, which is one thing I gotta say about a below 100% crewed Tet...the gun is very slow to aim...
Edited by KnightFandragon, Aug 16 2012 - 17:43.

KnightFandragon, on Aug 16 2012 - 17:41, said:

If you are going for view range and TD style sniping Bino's are far superior to Optics (even adding in Recon).  Don't forget BIA increases your view range as well (since it buffs the Commander).  Also on top of the view range advantage the Bino's give you take the Cammo skill which is essential to make sure you aren't spotted.

Yes the OTM accuracy is poor however the 100% crew + Vents + BIA + Snap Shot + Smooth Ride help with that alot.  My primary tactic is to snipe from a well concealed position.  Run and Gun is a secondary option.

BTW, I will switch Mentor to Sixth Sense once that skill gets to 100%.

StormDagger, on Aug 16 2012 - 17:59, said:

Only thing with me and Binocs, is i dont sit in one spot long.  I move way to much ot make use of binos or camo nets.  I have an Artyphobia so I fire, move a bit, fire again....plus tanks eventually will zero in on my spot.  I dont doubt Binocs are better, 25% sounds pretty amazing actually...just the move and it stops working thing never appealed to me....

Take a look at the wot-stats: http://wot-news.com/...rver/us/norm/en
In a nut shell:
Over the last two weeks, the T-127 has better than a 53% win rate.  The Tetrarch has better than a 51%.
Over the last four weeks, not much changed.
Since they started collecting stats, that rate is at least a full percent lower.  So either the good players have stopped playing them, or the updated MM isn't so kind anymore.

I don't have a T-127, but if it is seeing Tier 5 now, assuming it wasn't before, then that would be a new challenge.

I have the Tetrarch and play it regularly, once or twice every two or three days.  I get top gun about every 5 or 6 battles.  Once you figure to fit it in your style of play, or adjust your style to best use it, it is still a beast.  I have binos and play mostly like a passive scout.  I move ahead, and take out lone tanks when I find them.  When I am not doing that, I use its speed to go into a support role.  When I see a lone tank on my team getting beat up, and they are close enough for me to help, I go help.  Someone rushing at my arty, I chase.  See a group of my team facing off a group of their own, I go flank.

Edit: posting lost the stats link, so added it back in.
Edited by 3BAC, Aug 16 2012 - 18:33.

The Tet is the single best T2 Tank in this game imho....Get a 100% crew in it and learn its quirks...its absolutely unfair and kinda op really.  My Kills show only like 2 kills a game on avg.  But really, theway it works is i either get 3-5 kills or I die early and get 0.  I even had a game where I got like 7 or 8 kills in the span of about 45 seconds....Other games my uncle and i platoon together and we rush off and commence to absolutely rape, torture and pillage the other team, usually ending with like 4-5 kills between us, sometimes more.  If there is any definition of awesome in this game, the Tet is it.  Sadly, it seems alot of players who have the Tet havent yet tapped into it's true potential.  it was a very merry xmas from WG when they gave us the Tet.

I just hope when or if the Tet goes British that WG doesnt nerf its AWESOME factor.
Edited by KnightFandragon, Aug 16 2012 - 18:55.

When I first got this tank from the Devs last year, I didn't think much of it. I played 40+ games and did poorly. I first started out with 5 kills in one battle and after that I couldn't do squat so I gave up on it. Then 2 months ago I decided to play it again as a sniper and it was a totally different tank. Definitely not a brawler but an excellent sniper. Since then I've won 14 Top Gun awards and got an "M" badge. I  love this tank and I wouldn't give it up. I can't say anything about the T127 since I don't have one.
Stick with the Tet and snipe with it. If you do end up running close to the enemy, keep moving and don't sit still to shoot. A moving target has a better chance of bouncing shots.

I think the T127 is an absolute beast...   65 battles, 49 wins, 144 destroyed, 70% hit ratio...  most of that was with less than a 100% crew.  It's my low tier troll tank