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Kill stealing, whatever, but Top Gun stealing, come on man!

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EJVH3 #1 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:24

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I am not one that thinks there is any such thing as kill stealing in a team based game. We all do what we need to do to get the win. But last night in a pub match I was playing my E-75 and we were down to just me and a M26 Pershing on our team and a Tier 6 arty, M103 and a TD on the other team. At this time I had 3 kills and the Pershing had 2 kills. The Pershing was hiding behind a rock when I drove by and killed the TD he was hiding from. He then takes the long long route around the whole map to flank the M103 and the arty. I take the direct route and in the mean while see the arty, take a splash hit from it and then one shot kill the arty. This gives me 5 kills with one tank left. While the Pershing is still taking the long route I find the M103 and he is AFK. I start knocking it down when the Pershing shows up and started to hit the tank too. Everyone types "He is AFK, let him get his Top Gun". The guy waits until the tank is at 1% and I am reloading and puts one in it for the kill. I have actually seen this happen in Pubs before, just have never been in the position myself to have it happen to me until last night. Kind of XX if you ask me?

SunFlash #2 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:25

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When I come around a corner, I shoot whatever is in front of me, and if it's at low health and you were shooting it, sorry, it's mine now.  But waiting for it is a little nasty.

tankcrunch #3 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:27

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it is bs but shit happen

stumpjumper8 #4 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:27

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Been there.  What can anyone do?  That's just how people are.

ChairmanMilo #5 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:27

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I always let my clan-makes take a kill if that means they get top gun, and I almost always encourage pubbies to let a guy get top gun if I see a decent player with 5 kills getting close to the last enemy tank.  However, I never get upset when I end a match with only 5 kills.  I don't have a sense of entitlement when it comes to "medals" or "achievements" in online games.  Sure they seem pretty cool, but I play to win and to have a lot of fun while doing it.  Anything else is just a fringe benefit.

If someone wants to troll and/or grief you by "stealing" the kill shot, so be it.  He doesn't get the credits and XP you do for dealing out most of the damage.

zwild #6 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:29

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Sorta a "a$$hat" moment but there really is no kill stealing in WoT.

Does Top Gun give extra XP?  I know damage done gives the most and it looks like you did 99% of it.

IF that M103 wasn't afk you would have cherished his help, but because it was afk... sorta a$$hatery.  But did he know it was afk we can only wonder.


I would like to add:  "If it is red, it is dead".

Edited by zwild, Aug 17 2012 - 15:30.


EJVH3 #7 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:29

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View PostSunFlash, on Aug 17 2012 - 15:25, said:

When I come around a corner, I shoot whatever is in front of me, and if it's at low health and you were shooting it, sorry, it's mine now.  But waiting for it is a little nasty.

Dude, I agree. As I stated in the OP I too think there is no such thing as a kill steal in this game. Please do come help me kill a tank. Especially before it gets another hit on me. But in this case, he knew, he waited and he did it on purpose...right after I won the game for us. Anyway you soften it up, it was BS.

Damonvile #8 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:31

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If I see an enemy tank I shoot it. There is far more important things for players to be focused on than will this tank give someone a top gun.

Bikk #9 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:31

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To get top gun YOU have to get 6 kills, if everybody stands aside to let you shoot did YOU get top gun?  Not to me.

There is NO stealing kills of any kind.  This is a team game.  Get it next time.

Buff_Rumblecrunch #10 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:32

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There is no kill stealing.
He stole my Top Gun.

Not a contradiction.

DOM1NO #11 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:33

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Not sure why you are getting the neg reps, not like you are raging or anything, just pointing out something that happened.

Anyway, I think a lot of people play the whole game with tunnel vision, the guy probably didn't even realize what he was doing, all he saw was another kill. At least that's what I'd like to think, the alternative is pretty sad, taking it away from you on purpose?

EJVH3 #12 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:33

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View Postzwild, on Aug 17 2012 - 15:29, said:


IF that M103 wasn't afk you would have cherished his help, but because it was afk... sorta a$$hatery.  But did he know it was afk we can only wonder.


I would like to add:  "If it is red, it is dead".

No doubt, because I am a team player, I would have wanted his help with it if he wasn't AFK and would have been more than happy with 5 kills and a win. But that wasn't the case and I would have gave him the kill in a reversed situation.

streetluis #13 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:34

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Deal with it

lugzan #14 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:35

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:Smile_popcorn1: so the issue is about he steal you epeen badge?

stugger #15 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:35

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View PosteNumbra, on Aug 17 2012 - 15:32, said:

There is no kill stealing.
He stole my Top Gun.

Not a contradiction.

Yeah my thoughts exactly

ErwinRommel85 #16 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:39

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Had ten kills and was going for the last player on the other team (for my new record 11 kills) but my team wouldnt stop capping to give me a chance.  We had like ten guys left and ~10 minutes so no chance of losing.  Frustrating but what can you do?

ITDUDE #17 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:40

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View PosteNumbra, on Aug 17 2012 - 15:32, said:

There is no kill stealing.
He stole my Top Gun.

Not a contradiction.

There is no kill stealing.
Except when it's is someone's 6th kill, then it is kill stealing?
What if he had all 6 kills stollen by someone and ended up with confederate instead of top gun. Is it kill stealing then?

If there is no kill stealing, then no medal that is based on kills can be stolen either.

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View PostDOM1NO, on Aug 17 2012 - 15:33, said:

Not sure why you are getting the neg reps, not like you are raging or anything, just pointing out something that happened.

Anyway, I think a lot of people play the whole game with tunnel vision, the guy probably didn't even realize what he was doing, all he saw was another kill. At least that's what I'd like to think, the alternative is pretty sad, taking it away from you on purpose?

If you didn't know, people in the forums that neg rep a story, or an opinion are just like that guy in the game waiting for the last shot. Being tools are the way they get attention, and to some people negative attention is still attention. You neg rep a rude person or a troll, not an opinion you disagree with.

I do think he did it on purpose because everyone told him, he was there next to me and saw it was a afk tank (we were together next to the tank point blank), he waited while I shot the tank down, then took the last shot. It was an a-hole move regardless what the devils advocates on here want to post.

BlackJack111 #19 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:42

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I've actually been on the other side of this.  I was in my IS as top tier on the attacking side of an assault battle.  I was running with a KV1s, we chewed up their entire team.  I had 5 kills, he had 3.  There was one pz38na left hiding behind a rock.  The KV1s was nice enough to say "let him get topgun", and actually pulled up behind the pz38 and parked so it couldn't get away.  Then some little pain in the arse M3 stuart started complaining that it wasn't fair that I had 5 kills and he had none, so he thought he should get to kill the last one.  Needless to say, I didn't agree and put a 122 round in the pz38.  M3 started cussing at me.

I didn't ask anyone to give me top gun, but the other guy actively tried to help me get it (which I really appreciate and would defintely do in a situation like that where the match is clearly won, as it was in OP's case).  It was just really sad to see someone get so bent out of shape because I wanted Topgun and he hadn't done much of anything all match.

Damonvile #20 Posted Aug 17 2012 - 15:43

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I'm sure everyone would of thought the guy was an a-hole at the time. Said something to someone on voice chat and gotten a " yeah what a loser " in return.

It's the rant on the forums and looking for support that is giving you the grief about it......btw. There's enough real problems with annoying players that people just don't have sympathy for boohoo I didn't get my topgun!!