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Poll: Question about this Cannon. (16 )

The T34.

  1. Yes it can. (8 [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. No it can't. (8 [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

The SuperPershing.

  1. Yes it can. (10 [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  2. No it can't. (4 [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

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Emothic's Photo Emothic Aug 19 2012

Can the German 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55 on the E-75 pen the turret armor of the American T34, and get it pen the front and turret of the SuperPershing? Cause I'm getting really tired of using the 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 and not behing able to pen the turret of the T34, because every time I face one their haul is behind cover. So when I go against the T34 I just back away. And I'm also tired of facing against the SuperPershing because my gun is unable to pen the frontal armor of that damn tank.

I would you know shoot them in the side, back, or maybe some lower or very very very small weakness on the tanks. But when you shoot at something that is over 200m its kinda hard to hit that small target, or if your fighting one from 50m away, its kinda hard to focus on that small target when all you want to do is get a shot in and then back away to safety. And when your in a tank that is slow because you don't have the 1,200 horse power engine and are using the 870 instead. Taking off, getting up that speed, and maintaining that speed to flank them is kinda hard.
Edited by Emothic, Aug 19 2012 - 09:10.
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thundersaver's Photo thundersaver Aug 19 2012

View PostEmothic, on Aug 19 2012 - 08:49, said:

Can the German 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55 on the E-75 pen the turret armor of the American T34, and get it pen the front and turret of the SuperPershing? Cause I'm getting really tired of using the 10,5 cm KwK 46 L/68 and not behing able to pen the turret of the T34, because every time I face one their haul is behind cover. So when I go against the T34 I just back away. And I'm also tired of facing against the SuperPershing because my gun is unable to pen the frontal armor of that damn tank.

I would you know shoot them in the side, back, or maybe some lower or very very very small weakness on the tanks. But when you shoot at something that is over 200m its kinda hard to hit that small target, or if your fighting one from 50m away, its kinda hard to focus on that small target when all you want to do is get a shot in and then back away to safety. And when your in a tank that is slow because you don't have the 1,200 horse power engine and are using the 870 instead. Taking off, getting up that speed, and maintaining that speed to flank them is kinda hard.

Can't penetrate the frontal mantle for the T34, but with the 105 and the 128 you can penetrate the parts without the mantle. The mantle is 279mm thick.
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JohnTzimisces's Photo JohnTzimisces Aug 19 2012

Actually doing damage might be difficult at that range and if they're in a hull-down position, but my experience playing with a T29 shows that the use of HE on the heavily armored turret carries a decent chance of damaging or destroying the cannon. This in turn improves your chances of closing in unmolested to get a better shot, since the T34s cannon doesn't have spectacular aiming time as it is.
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TheRealPaladin's Photo TheRealPaladin Aug 19 2012

I don't mean to sound like an A**, but learn to aim. Really it isn't that hard. If an idiot like myself can do it, then so can you.
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Emothic's Photo Emothic Aug 19 2012

View Postthundersaver, on Aug 19 2012 - 08:55, said:

Can't penetrate the frontal mantle for the T34, but with the 105 and the 128 you can penetrate the parts without the mantle. The mantle is 279mm thick.

Yea, but there are 2 different times I see a T34.

1.) They are haul down and aiming at me, of which I can't pen cause of their mantle (Problem)

2.) They are exposed and easy for me to pen and damage. (No Problem)
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Emothic's Photo Emothic Aug 19 2012

View Postpaladin5, on Aug 19 2012 - 09:04, said:

I don't mean to sound like an A**, but learn to aim. Really it isn't that hard. If an idiot like myself can do it, then so can you.

Okay, so where on its front turret can I pen it. And when I mean where, I mean give me screenshot after screen shot of how and where I can do it.
Edited by Emothic, Aug 19 2012 - 09:06.
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thundersaver's Photo thundersaver Aug 19 2012

View PostEmothic, on Aug 19 2012 - 09:05, said:

Yea, but there are 2 different times I see a T34.

1.) They are haul down and aiming at me, of which I can't pen cause of their mantle (Problem)

2.) They are exposed and easy for me to pen and damage. (No Problem)

Aim for the little amount of cheeks available, they are about 170mm thick

http://wotarmory.fil...-angle-m103.jpg

Something like this, but the T34 is smaller but weaker.
Edited by thundersaver, Aug 19 2012 - 09:08.
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Emothic's Photo Emothic Aug 19 2012

View Postthundersaver, on Aug 19 2012 - 09:06, said:

Aim for the little amount of cheeks available, they are about 170mm thick

Yea, thats kind hard to shoot at from the distance I'm trying to hit them with. Plus that is alot of time just sitting there trying to get an accurate aim for me to take multiple shots my self if I was close enought to do that.
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thundersaver's Photo thundersaver Aug 19 2012

View PostEmothic, on Aug 19 2012 - 09:09, said:

Yea, thats kind hard to shoot at from the distance I'm trying to hit them with. Plus that is alot of time just sitting there trying to get an accurate aim for me to take multiple shots my self if I was close enought to do that.

If the T34 is hull-down and since you would risk getting shot, just move back till the T34 comes out. Use your view range zoomed out to the maximum and look when the tank comes of over, move up take a shot, he will take some time to aim properly because his aim time is very long.
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Emothic's Photo Emothic Aug 19 2012

View Postthundersaver, on Aug 19 2012 - 09:12, said:

If the T34 is hull-down and since you would risk getting shot, just move back till the T34 comes out. Use your view range zoomed out to the maximum and look when the tank comes of over, move up take a shot, he will take some time to aim properly because his aim time is very long.

That is what I try to do, but in some cases that is not possible. Either I'm to far away from any cover and trying to get to safety would be impossible. Or I'm operating alone and I can't just sit there behind cover risking behing shot at by arty or being flanked by enemy. So I have to take some kind of action to shoot back.
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Mow_Mow's Photo Mow_Mow Aug 19 2012

Try the hatches on top, or just to the left and right of the gunshield.
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undeadshooterx's Photo undeadshooterx Aug 19 2012

View PostMow_Mow, on Aug 19 2012 - 09:31, said:

Try the hatches on top, or just to the left and right of the gunshield.
The hatches are very reliable to pen, they barely have any armor.
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autorev's Photo autorev Aug 19 2012

View Postundeadshooterx, on Aug 19 2012 - 10:49, said:

The hatches are very reliable to pen, they barely have any armor.

The top is a very good target if you have an elevation advantage.  If you're below the T34, you're going to need to pick a better place to fight it from.
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