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hey Wargaming.. did we forget about Dieppe or something??

no specials or anything?.. not even an honorable mention...Shame...Shame..




http://i41.photobuck...wart/dieppe.jpg



Footsteps in the sand may wash away, but memories last forever.

For all Canadians, British and Americans soldiers fallen at Dieppe : We will never forget.

The Dieppe Raid :
http://www.canadianb...Dieppe_raid.htm
http://img15.hosting...68374Dieppe.jpg

TheSentinel, on Aug 20 2012 - 03:45, said:

There were no Americans in the dieppe raid, if you looked at your own image, you might have known that

BandofBrothers101, on Aug 20 2012 - 03:55, said:

There were 50 Americans rangers (mixed with canadians troops) :
http://www.canadianb...Dieppe_raid.htm

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Edited by TheSentinel, Aug 20 2012 - 03:57.

TheSentinel, on Aug 20 2012 - 03:56, said:

don't recall that happening..herp my bad then... :/

BandofBrothers101, on Aug 20 2012 - 03:57, said:

No problem, It's a somewhat forgotten part of history because that was a slaughter I guess.

wiggs, on Aug 20 2012 - 03:36, said:

I think they did a special last year and didn't want to repeat specials.

The whole raid was borne of incompetence and my sense is that it was probably the result of a drunken bet made at the officers mess.

Nothing about the stated purposes of the raid make any sense whatsoever. 'We' threw away the lives of the men who died there.

What we should remember is NEVER AGAIN.
Edited by whariwharangi, Aug 20 2012 - 04:07.

BandofBrothers101, on Aug 20 2012 - 03:57, said:

Best bone up on your history before making remarks.

i think WG did forget this

BandofBrothers101, on Aug 20 2012 - 03:55, said:

Thought. They had a small group of rangers under the Brit command.

whariwharangi, on Aug 20 2012 - 04:02, said:

What we learned in that raid was how not to launch an amphibious attack on a fortified position(this had never really been done successfully before). As a result of these lessons, The Canadians attacked the most heavily defended beach(distance from water to seawall was the longest, seawall was the highest, and Germans had more forces in the area) on D-Day, with fewer casualties than the Americans, and advanced 11km inland by the end of the day. Compare this to the massive casualties suffered by the Americans(who generally ignored the lessons learned by the British and Canadians) and the 1.5km advance at Omaha. British advanced 7km. Canadians were the only ones who made it to any of their D-Day objectives.

Dieppe, the cost was high, but the lessons learned were more than worth it.

Looks like WG hates America and freedom. Real men fought and died for my freedom to play internet tank video games. Shame on you WG for not giving me a discout.
Edited by Scubafishtank, Aug 20 2012 - 05:26.

SimTim, on Aug 20 2012 - 04:00, said:

well i can understand that not giving out specials is one thing..but not to even mention it is a disgrace on WG part.

supershutze, on Aug 20 2012 - 05:18, said:

Omaha was the most heavily defended beach head throughout the stretch of the Atlantic Wall that the Allies managed to attack, so I wouldn't necessarily say that they ignored lessons (Note that Utah had the least casualties). There's not only that but there were other amphibious landings after Dieppe and before Normandy, such as in Africa and Sicily. Pretty sure they learned some lessons there too.

TheSentinel, on Aug 20 2012 - 04:00, said:

No it is forgotten because they were Canadians. All us Canadians get 0 credit for helping in WWII, even though we did a huge amount of the supply runs to europe across the ocean, and alot of the building of milatary hardware used.  The fact that 10s of thousands died is always forgotten to all but us Canadians.  This is just more proof from WG. Forget Canada, but worship USSR/USA contributions no matter how small.

ryoken12, on Aug 20 2012 - 06:02, said:

The fact that this company even commemorates sacrifice is proof enough that they give a shit about veterans. How much of your private profits have you donated to retired servicemen organizations? It goes without saying that WG.net has upheld a social and civic responsibility to take care of those who have fought, evidenced enough by their charity drives. The fact that they went out of their way to do this is proof that as a company, they have moral standing, and I am, as are many others, more than happy to continue paying for their products.

Take your whining elsewhere. There is no satisfying some people. This is not a company whos main goal is to commemorate the sacrifice of allied troops. As far as I know, no other games company has gone to the length they have. Cut them some slack.
Edited by Bridgeburner_, Aug 20 2012 - 06:27.

Gyarados, on Aug 20 2012 - 05:49, said:

Omaha was the most heavily FORTIFIED, not defended.

The soldiers defending Omaha
German 352nd Infantry Division
Which was composed largely(~50%) of second rate garrison troops, who had minimal training and almost completely lacked motorized transport.

German military units in the Vicinity of Juno beach were
716th Static Infantry Division (Wehrmacht)
21st Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) (Was part of the Afrika Korps: Veteran soldiers)

Canadian Losses.
359 dead
574 wounded
47 captured

American Losses.
3,000 KIA, MIA, Incap.

You are right about Utah beach, in that they landed virtually unopposed and suffered very few casualties. However they still failed to advance any farther than 1.5km inland.

double post
Edited by supershutze, Aug 20 2012 - 07:55.

supershutze, on Aug 20 2012 - 07:53, said:

Fortification is defense brotato, it wasn't the most heavily defended in terms of manpower or skill, but it had the most guns pointing out at the Channel, which kind of matters a lot. I was just trying to point out that it wasn't by massive amounts of error that the landing at Omaha was a blood bath because of error rather than just running into the meanest SOB on the coast. Utah was mainly a success because they landed in the wrong spot, but hey, worked out for them right!?