How would you build a 1 Nation Medium Tank...
StormDagger
Aug 20 2012
If you were to build a Medium tank Company using only 1 nation's tanks which would it be?
Secondly what tanks would you use?
And last if you were forced to build a Medium Tank Compnay for each Nation (other than the one you picked...duh) how would you do it?
American
Heavy: M6
Medium: M4A3E8, M4A3E2
TD: M18 Hellcat, M36 Slugger
Light: M5 Stuart
SPG: Priest
French
Heavy: ARL44
TD: ARLV39
Medium: n/a
Light: AMX40 (rofl)
SPG: AMX105AM
German
Heavy: n/a
TD: JagdPz IV
Medium: VK 3601 (H), VK 3001 (H), VK 3001 (P)
Light: VK 1602 Leopard, PzKpfw 38 nA
SPG: Grille
Russian
Heavy: KV-1S, KV-2, T-150
TD: SU-100
Medium: T-34-85
Light: T-50, A-20
SPG: SU-5
Medium Tank Company
Total tier level : minimum 40 pts - maximum 60 pts
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Artillery level : 2-4
Tank destroyer level : 2-6
Light tank level : 1-4
Medium tank level : 2-6
Heavy tank level : 4-6
Secondly what tanks would you use?
And last if you were forced to build a Medium Tank Compnay for each Nation (other than the one you picked...duh) how would you do it?
American
Heavy: M6
Medium: M4A3E8, M4A3E2
TD: M18 Hellcat, M36 Slugger
Light: M5 Stuart
SPG: Priest
French
Heavy: ARL44
TD: ARLV39
Medium: n/a
Light: AMX40 (rofl)
SPG: AMX105AM
German
Heavy: n/a
TD: JagdPz IV
Medium: VK 3601 (H), VK 3001 (H), VK 3001 (P)
Light: VK 1602 Leopard, PzKpfw 38 nA
SPG: Grille
Russian
Heavy: KV-1S, KV-2, T-150
TD: SU-100
Medium: T-34-85
Light: T-50, A-20
SPG: SU-5
Medium Tank Company
Total tier level : minimum 40 pts - maximum 60 pts
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Artillery level : 2-4
Tank destroyer level : 2-6
Light tank level : 1-4
Medium tank level : 2-6
Heavy tank level : 4-6
midnyteshadow
Aug 20 2012
I'd say Russian, followed closely by Americans.
The reason being the two nations would have very different play styles. The Russians would be similar to the standard set up. Armor armor armor; kv-1s. The t50 would give great early eyes, and then the heavy armor would move in. The reason I say the Americans follow closely is the mobility. Though I wouldn't touch an m6 with a 20ft pole, a platoon of hellcats or easy 8s played right can shread tanks, and the M7's rof when upgraded with a full crew is ungodly.
Russians:
5 x KV-1S
2 x SU-100
1 x SU-5
1 x T-50
Americans:
4 x M18
3 x E8
2 x M7
The reason being the two nations would have very different play styles. The Russians would be similar to the standard set up. Armor armor armor; kv-1s. The t50 would give great early eyes, and then the heavy armor would move in. The reason I say the Americans follow closely is the mobility. Though I wouldn't touch an m6 with a 20ft pole, a platoon of hellcats or easy 8s played right can shread tanks, and the M7's rof when upgraded with a full crew is ungodly.
Russians:
5 x KV-1S
2 x SU-100
1 x SU-5
1 x T-50
Americans:
4 x M18
3 x E8
2 x M7
Kophka
Aug 20 2012
I'd go with US myself.
5 E8's/E2's
4 M18's
1 M7
1 T2LT
Dunno why, seems like a good team.
5 E8's/E2's
4 M18's
1 M7
1 T2LT
Dunno why, seems like a good team.
Theaty
Aug 20 2012
Well i would mix the Russians with the americans and germans as arty...but if you really want to have ONE nation as tank company i would go with Russians
Kophka
Aug 20 2012
I don't know why everyone says the KV-1S has heavy armor, it's actually the weakest out all Tier 6 heavies. The 1S's advantage is having a LOT of gun. The 122's alpha is definitely OP for a tier 6 tank, but the other guns are just really bad for a tier 6, so you kinda have no choice. If a KV-1s gets caught flat-footed, the weaker armor and slow reload will get them shredded by E8's, M6's, 3601's, and 34-85's.
If I was going to build a Soviet team, it would be.
2 T-150's (front liners)
2 KV-1S's (punishers)
3 34-85's (mobile killers)
2 SU-85's with 85BM's (perfect gun for medium companies)
1 T-50 (scout)
1 SU-5 (duh)
If I was going to build a Soviet team, it would be.
2 T-150's (front liners)
2 KV-1S's (punishers)
3 34-85's (mobile killers)
2 SU-85's with 85BM's (perfect gun for medium companies)
1 T-50 (scout)
1 SU-5 (duh)
StormDagger
Aug 20 2012
Whoever chose the French please post the Company make up you would use. I'm very curious as to how you think they'd be better than say the Russians or the Americans.
I can see the Germans making a go of it. The VK3601(H) can play as a heavy, the 3001's can function on the role of flankers, the Grille is the SPG of choice for Medium Company matches and the Leopard is a servicable scout that can certainly perform an anti-scout role if nothing else.
The Russians seem to have the best "standard" build. The KV-1S is certainly the most popular choice for a HT currently and the T-50 is definitely the scout of choice. Throw in a couple of KV-2's for heavy support or a couple of T-35-85's for flexibility and the SU-5 and you have a well rounded Medium Company.
The Americans can actually go in a few different directions. They can go for the "standard" build with M6 as thier HT supported by a couple of E8/E2's or M18/36's. The Stuart is a fairly good scout and the Priest is a fairly good SPG (especially good at CB). However they can also go for speed utilizing E8's and M18's supported by several M7's (no need for a scout in this set up).
The French...sigh. I guess you could go with ARL44's supported by a couple of ARLV39's and AMX105AM's, not that there's much of a choice.
I can see the Germans making a go of it. The VK3601(H) can play as a heavy, the 3001's can function on the role of flankers, the Grille is the SPG of choice for Medium Company matches and the Leopard is a servicable scout that can certainly perform an anti-scout role if nothing else.
The Russians seem to have the best "standard" build. The KV-1S is certainly the most popular choice for a HT currently and the T-50 is definitely the scout of choice. Throw in a couple of KV-2's for heavy support or a couple of T-35-85's for flexibility and the SU-5 and you have a well rounded Medium Company.
The Americans can actually go in a few different directions. They can go for the "standard" build with M6 as thier HT supported by a couple of E8/E2's or M18/36's. The Stuart is a fairly good scout and the Priest is a fairly good SPG (especially good at CB). However they can also go for speed utilizing E8's and M18's supported by several M7's (no need for a scout in this set up).
The French...sigh. I guess you could go with ARL44's supported by a couple of ARLV39's and AMX105AM's, not that there's much of a choice.
Kophka
Aug 20 2012
midnyteshadow, on Aug 20 2012 - 04:37, said:
I'd say Russian, followed closely by Americans.
The reason being the two nations would have very different play styles. The Russians would be similar to the standard set up. Armor armor armor; kv-1s. The t50 would give great early eyes, and then the heavy armor would move in. The reason I say the Americans follow closely is the mobility. Though I wouldn't touch an m6 with a 20ft pole, a platoon of hellcats or easy 8s played right can shread tanks, and the M7's rof when upgraded with a full crew is ungodly.
Russians:
5 x KV-1S
2 x SU-100
1 x SU-5
1 x T-50
Americans:
4 x M18
3 x E8
2 x M7
The reason being the two nations would have very different play styles. The Russians would be similar to the standard set up. Armor armor armor; kv-1s. The t50 would give great early eyes, and then the heavy armor would move in. The reason I say the Americans follow closely is the mobility. Though I wouldn't touch an m6 with a 20ft pole, a platoon of hellcats or easy 8s played right can shread tanks, and the M7's rof when upgraded with a full crew is ungodly.
Russians:
5 x KV-1S
2 x SU-100
1 x SU-5
1 x T-50
Americans:
4 x M18
3 x E8
2 x M7
Both of these teams are only 50 points. What would you do with the last 10?
Antosha_
Aug 20 2012
An M6 company heavy company backed with a couple M18s and priests would demolish people.
Some will disagree, but some are also noobs who don't know how to play a tank that requires more than just POINT BIG GUN AND CLICK
Some will disagree, but some are also noobs who don't know how to play a tank that requires more than just POINT BIG GUN AND CLICK
karl_eller
Aug 21 2012
I voted Russian, because KV-1Ss backed up by T-34-85s would be awesome.
Germans would probably be my #2 choice. VK3601s backed up by 3001(H)s with Leopards for scouts would roll face fairly well.
Germans would probably be my #2 choice. VK3601s backed up by 3001(H)s with Leopards for scouts would roll face fairly well.
the_moidart
Aug 21 2012
I don't do team play but keep in mind for the French the V39 with the short 90mm has great DPM and pretty good accuracy, and enough pen for this tier.
precambrian
Aug 22 2012
Russian
6X KV-1S
2X T-150
2X SU-8
1X T-50
The artillery piece is actually kind of bad... if going full heavy, could swap out the two SU-8s and the T-50 for two more heavies.
American
6X M6
2X M4A3E8
2X M7 Priest
1X M5 Stuart
The much-maligned M6, with the 90mm M3, performs similarly to a T110E5 in Medium companies. Maneuverable in a pinch, good DPM, decent penetration, and excellent rate of fire. You could even swap out the 2 supporting Easy Eights for two more M6s and just do a full on M6 pack.
or the full mobility set up posted above would work well also.
10X VK3601(H) with the Konisch would be my personal favorite for sheer German lulz.
6X KV-1S
2X T-150
2X SU-8
1X T-50
The artillery piece is actually kind of bad... if going full heavy, could swap out the two SU-8s and the T-50 for two more heavies.
American
6X M6
2X M4A3E8
2X M7 Priest
1X M5 Stuart
The much-maligned M6, with the 90mm M3, performs similarly to a T110E5 in Medium companies. Maneuverable in a pinch, good DPM, decent penetration, and excellent rate of fire. You could even swap out the 2 supporting Easy Eights for two more M6s and just do a full on M6 pack.
or the full mobility set up posted above would work well also.
10X VK3601(H) with the Konisch would be my personal favorite for sheer German lulz.
Thompson153
Aug 22 2012
I would have to go Americans. They just offer enough versitility to the discussion that others cannot match.
My dream team would be:
2x M4A3E2s to take the hits
6x M4A3E8s for fast-moving action
2x M18 Hellcats for the alpha and penetration
I have very little knowledge when it comes to Soviet tanks, so I would be the wrong person to ask about them. However, for the Germans:
5x VK3601(H)s for playing heavy mediums
2x VK3001(H)s for flanking
3x Grilles
And above all, the greatest team ever:
12x Churchills all firing gold rounds!
Alright, perhaps not the best ever... But still would be incredibly hilarious to watch!
My dream team would be:
2x M4A3E2s to take the hits
6x M4A3E8s for fast-moving action
2x M18 Hellcats for the alpha and penetration
I have very little knowledge when it comes to Soviet tanks, so I would be the wrong person to ask about them. However, for the Germans:
5x VK3601(H)s for playing heavy mediums
2x VK3001(H)s for flanking
3x Grilles
And above all, the greatest team ever:
12x Churchills all firing gold rounds!
Alright, perhaps not the best ever... But still would be incredibly hilarious to watch!
rayman49
Aug 22 2012
Well it's real close in my opinion and honesty it depends a whole lot on the map you end up in but I think a Russian company would probably be best overall, but yet again depends a lot of the maps.
Russian:
6 KV 1s
2 su 100
1 t50
2 su 5 ( I would say u need two arty because of low ammo)
American:
4 e2
4 'm18
3 priests ( one m18 should protect them and they will rain hell as people cannot penetrate the
French: I'd probably just go complete sniper mode here
2 arl hvy
6 arl TD
3 arty
They wouldn't have the best chance because armor = nonexistent
Russian:
6 KV 1s
2 su 100
1 t50
2 su 5 ( I would say u need two arty because of low ammo)
American:
4 e2
4 'm18
3 priests ( one m18 should protect them and they will rain hell as people cannot penetrate the
French: I'd probably just go complete sniper mode here
2 arl hvy
6 arl TD
3 arty
They wouldn't have the best chance because armor = nonexistent
Kophka
Aug 22 2012
Thompson153, on Aug 22 2012 - 05:22, said:
I would have to go Americans. They just offer enough versitility to the discussion that others cannot match.
My dream team would be:
2x M4A3E2s to take the hits
6x M4A3E8s for fast-moving action
2x M18 Hellcats for the alpha and penetration
I have very little knowledge when it comes to Soviet tanks, so I would be the wrong person to ask about them. However, for the Germans:
5x VK3601(H)s for playing heavy mediums
2x VK3001(H)s for flanking
3x Grilles
And above all, the greatest team ever:
12x Churchills all firing gold rounds!
Alright, perhaps not the best ever... But still would be incredibly hilarious to watch!
My dream team would be:
2x M4A3E2s to take the hits
6x M4A3E8s for fast-moving action
2x M18 Hellcats for the alpha and penetration
I have very little knowledge when it comes to Soviet tanks, so I would be the wrong person to ask about them. However, for the Germans:
5x VK3601(H)s for playing heavy mediums
2x VK3001(H)s for flanking
3x Grilles
And above all, the greatest team ever:
12x Churchills all firing gold rounds!
Alright, perhaps not the best ever... But still would be incredibly hilarious to watch!
I usually frown on using gold rounds against pubs... but send me the invite, I'm totally down for churchlol thrills.
Kilduda
Aug 25 2012
This is really a no brainer. Russian med company tanks are waaaay OP compared to the others.
Here is the winning set-up:
7 KV-1S 42 pts
1 T-50 4 pts
2 SU-5 8 pts
2 SU-26 6 pts
60 points of utter destruction for your opponents....Russians win!
Here is the winning set-up:
7 KV-1S 42 pts
1 T-50 4 pts
2 SU-5 8 pts
2 SU-26 6 pts
60 points of utter destruction for your opponents....Russians win!
StormDagger
Aug 25 2012
How about this...
8 VK3601(H) (they all have to use the Konisch w/gold rounds)
3 Grille
I'd equip the VK's w/vents/Rammer and Binoc's to give them superior DPM and view range.
8 VK3601(H) (they all have to use the Konisch w/gold rounds)
3 Grille
I'd equip the VK's w/vents/Rammer and Binoc's to give them superior DPM and view range.


