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Coke_a_Cola's Photo Coke_a_Cola Aug 20 2012

I am a Noob and KNOW I am a Noob..

Heck I just found out that after 200 Battles in a Hetzer, that HE is what makes the 10.5 gun a derp gun and NOT the AP rounds..

So now that this noob don't run 200 plus battles in my Stugg with the wrong ammo, I want to ask here..

I have the 7,5 cm StuK 42 L/70 bought and mounted.. What is the best ammo to use with this gun??  AP or HE??  
I do keep 4 gold rounds for that have to moment when a win is a win and a sure bounce with AP is a loss..
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1Thor's Photo 1Thor Aug 20 2012

Good for you for asking
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_Ruffles_'s Photo _Ruffles_ Aug 20 2012

AP should always be used with the L/70. You will barely penetrate anything with the 38mm of penetration that HE rounds offer.
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BandofBrothers101's Photo BandofBrothers101 Aug 20 2012

AP bro, all the time.., you should be able to pen all the tier 6/5/4 tanks with it
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WhiteValkyrie's Photo WhiteValkyrie Aug 20 2012

 Coke_a_Cola, on Aug 20 2012 - 05:15, said:

I am a Noob and KNOW I am a Noob..

Heck I just found out that after 200 Battles in a Hetzer, that HE is what makes the 10.5 gun a derp gun and NOT the AP rounds..

So now that this noob don't run 200 plus battles in my Stugg with the wrong ammo, I want to ask here..

I have the 7,5 cm StuK 42 L/70 bought and mounted.. What is the best ammo to use with this gun??  AP or HE??  
I do keep 4 gold rounds for that have to moment when a win is a win and a sure bounce with AP is a loss..
For any none large caliber low velocity gun, use AP

that 7,5 for example should be using AP since the HE from a small caliber gun does pretty much nothing.
However, still carry some HE just in case you encounter some enemies with armor where you can't penetrate with the AP rounds.
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tread50's Photo tread50 Aug 20 2012

Go AP with about 5-6 HE for those cap reset moments
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kidnoob's Photo kidnoob Aug 20 2012

gold round for a stug long 75 wow but i say use AP and some HE !!!and don't use gold shell on public
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1RandomGrey1's Photo 1RandomGrey1 Aug 20 2012

lol dumbass
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RIA1911's Photo RIA1911 Aug 20 2012

Use AP, use HE for cap reset, and start searching the forums to learn about the weakpoints that are common on every tank in the game, will help you as you go up the tiers.
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Uxellinus's Photo Uxellinus Aug 20 2012

2 other good ways to tell is.

1- If the barrel is long in comprehensions to the derp 105. *nubby short barrel* then ap is the better choice.

2. If the AP shell and HE shell have near if not the same penetration values.

And one last measure if you shoot a tank in the side at medium range and it bounces probably should try an HE round and see if that gets some results. Also anything 3/4 tiers above you will give you trouble with AP so thats a final tip. In a stugg if you see the front of an VK4505 Ausf A or B use HE.
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Coke_a_Cola's Photo Coke_a_Cola Aug 20 2012

 1RandomGrey1, on Aug 20 2012 - 05:19, said:

lol dumbass

He is just joking guys Please stop the Neg rep
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Damonvile's Photo Damonvile Aug 20 2012

The easy way to tell if you should be using HE or AP

Short stubby guns use HE
Long barrel guns use AP

HE is still useful in the " AP " guns but you only need a few rounds.
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Coke_a_Cola's Photo Coke_a_Cola Aug 20 2012

AP is what I have had ... I just wanted to MAKE sure... I mean the 1st 200 fights in my Hetzer with the WRONG ammo was murder, or suicide, on my part and 2/3's of the teams I was on suffered from my dumbassidness and wrong ammo .... Soooo many tanks that should have been killed turned and killed me then went on to kill others..

Thanks everyone.. At least on my Stugg I was going the right direction...
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Coke_a_Cola's Photo Coke_a_Cola Aug 20 2012

I wonder if I could change my WoT screen name to, "dumbassidness"
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mustang_sally's Photo mustang_sally Aug 20 2012

 kidnoob, on Aug 20 2012 - 05:18, said:

gold round for a stug long 75 wow but i say use AP and some HE !!!and don't use gold shell on public

I'm pretty sure that if he wants to use "gold" he can! Who are you to tell him otherwise??
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Superspeed007's Photo Superspeed007 Aug 20 2012

i have always done about a 5 to 1 ratio of ap to he shells in a reg gun, however if it is a "derp" gun you want to carry nearly all he rounds as you will do damage and more than likely make the enemy rage when you destroy modules and kill crew members like I do
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Mydragonsfly's Photo Mydragonsfly Aug 20 2012

It isnt a dumb question. The only dumb question is a question that hasnt been asked.
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Coke_a_Cola's Photo Coke_a_Cola Aug 20 2012

 kidnoob, on Aug 20 2012 - 05:18, said:

gold round for a stug long 75 wow but i say use AP and some HE !!!and don't use gold shell on public

I am not defending the use of Gold rounds.. I simply keep 4 loaded for that rare time when I survive a match to the end and there are 2 tier 7's or even 6's capping, and I cant flank so my shots would be frontal..
I know Gold will bounce like AP, but with less frequency , and if one of these tier 7's or 6's is at low HP, you are damn right I will use Gold because I may not get another shot if I am seen..

A win is a win and a loss is a loss... I like to win... If one round makes that happen then so be it..   Hell I use to keep the same thing (4 rounds) in my Marder when all I faced was tier 5 tanks..
Edited by Coke_a_Cola, Aug 20 2012 - 05:54.
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Skpstr's Photo Skpstr Aug 20 2012

 mustang_sally, on Aug 20 2012 - 05:37, said:



I'm pretty sure that if he wants to use "gold" he can! Who are you to tell him otherwise??

Well, he certainly can, but seeing as the gun has 138 pen vs. Tier 7 max opponents, it would kind of be a waste.....
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Sergant_Sawkeet's Photo Sergant_Sawkeet Aug 20 2012

So if it only took me 100 games to figure that out on the German derp machine am I twice as smart as the op? What's half a dumbass? A moron?

When I got the derp on the kv1 I panicked in a game and thought I loaded ap. Here I go again with the wrong ammo! Then I felt even dumber when afterwards I saw there's only one nonpremium ammo for the tank.

The he/ap advice can commonly be found in a tank guide for derpable tanks...mandatory if you write one ever! Damonville said it best. Use he to reset cap on tanks if you o ly get one shot make it count!
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