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tankmaverick99's Photo tankmaverick99 Aug 20 2012

the new game modes have been having a lot of trouble. Don't get me wrong, the hill on Himmelsdorf is important; especially on those maps, but you need to remember that the objective is the flag. THE HILL CAN ONLY WORK IF MORE THAN TWO GO TO THE FLAG.
on another note, people are beginning to think that their strategy is always best. I was on the hill on Prokorovka and some T-50-2 kept saying to people GET OFF THE HILL!
soon enough, he came up and shot everyone on the hill in the back. the hill may be dangerous, but you shouldn't FORCE people off it. it is thier choice. besides, there are actually some spots on that hill that work quite well.
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Orange_Oberst's Photo Orange_Oberst Aug 20 2012

Well 50-2 was mostly right... Unless you  are a td hill in prok is a deAth wish except for one or two spots on the sides.
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SourKraut13's Photo SourKraut13 Aug 20 2012

Actually u got lucky on the hill in Prokorovka, because there are 2 spots on the south side that the assault force can see everything on the hill.  Problem is that one strategy worked for that player and now they think that it will always work.

Example: Same map, I was on assaulting force in my AMX 50 100, and I was top tank. Somebody piped up that everyone should go to the north end and attack in force there. We had 3 arty apeice, and a VK3002db driver threatened to ram me because I wouldn't  go north with them ( I went south to scout the hill). Players think that I am some kind of assault tank, because I have a autoloader (6 rds and done if I'm lucky, as it takes 47 sec to reload that drum). When I went south, i spotted a T34 coming down the hill. I unloaded all six rds, the first 3 hit for damage, next one miraculously missed, next one hit for damage and then the final one hit for 0 damage, leaving him with 234 HP left. This is typical RNG for this tank, I have never had all 6 hit for damage and actually kill a tank. Anyways, they had a major team fail up on the north end (Since that strategy doesn't work anymore because the defending team sent all their heavies that way, except 2). So the rest of my team decided to run over the hill south and get all blown up, leaving me by myself saying wtf, as I am still 25 seconds into reloading.

So just grit your teeth and do what you want to do. As the saying goes, play your tank the way you want to play your tank.
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warrends's Photo warrends Aug 20 2012

View Posttankmaverick99, on Aug 20 2012 - 12:47, said:

the new game modes have been having a lot of trouble. Don't get me wrong, the hill on Himmelsdorf is important; especially on those maps, but you need to remember that the objective is the flag. THE HILL CAN ONLY WORK IF MORE THAN TWO GO TO THE FLAG.
on another note, people are beginning to think that their strategy is always best. I was on the hill on Prokorovka and some T-50-2 kept saying to people GET OFF THE HILL!
soon enough, he came up and shot everyone on the hill in the back. the hill may be dangerous, but you shouldn't FORCE people off it. it is thier choice. besides, there are actually some spots on that hill that work quite well.
Right.

View PostOrange_Oberst, on Aug 20 2012 - 13:13, said:

Well 50-2 was mostly right... Unless you  are a td hill in prok is a deAth wish except for one or two spots on the sides.
Wrong. At least going there by yourself is wrong, unless you're a scout and can get back safely.

In pubbies, do whatever the hell you want. If one of your teammates shoots you in the back, report him and encourage others to do so too. If he is so stupid that is will shoot his own teammates in the back, then most likely his own strategies will suck too. Idiocy is idiocy.
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SuperJaws100's Photo SuperJaws100 Aug 20 2012

View Postwarrends, on Aug 20 2012 - 13:19, said:

Right.


Wrong. At least going there by yourself is wrong, unless you're a scout and can get back safely.

In pubbies, do whatever the hell you want. If one of your teammates shoots you in the back, report him and encourage others to do so too. If he is so stupid that is will shoot his own teammates in the back, then most likely his own strategies will suck too. Idiocy is idiocy.

LOL not to mention he will do, what, 6HP damage to a Teir 7? Anyway, tankmaverick you are completely right. And what I hate is when (when using Himmelsdorf as an example) a person tells everyone to rush hill, and when they all die says "Oh, the base rushers must not have done to well because we lost." Then when you tell him you and one other person were the only ones going to cap, he calls the team a bunch of noobs for going hill.....

I've seen a T110E5 TK friendly arty because they wouldn't advance. At that point, you should know arty NEVER advances.
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cheesellama's Photo cheesellama Aug 20 2012

View Posttankmaverick99, on Aug 20 2012 - 12:47, said:

the new game modes have been having a lot of trouble. Don't get me wrong, the hill on Himmelsdorf is important; especially on those maps, but you need to remember that the objective is the flag. THE HILL CAN ONLY WORK IF MORE THAN TWO GO TO THE FLAG.
on another note, people are beginning to think that their strategy is always best. I was on the hill on Prokorovka and some T-50-2 kept saying to people GET OFF THE HILL!
soon enough, he came up and shot everyone on the hill in the back. the hill may be dangerous, but you shouldn't FORCE people off it. it is thier choice. besides, there are actually some spots on that hill that work quite well.

Did you report him?
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tankmaverick99's Photo tankmaverick99 Aug 21 2012

View Postcheesellama, on Aug 20 2012 - 13:41, said:

Did you report him?
yup
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xvpunisher007vx's Photo xvpunisher007vx Aug 30 2012

basically the new modes are pretty bad, none of them are balanced. Always 1 team has an advantage in some way or another, seriously these new game modes are killing the game for me.
Can't wait for 8.0 so i can choose only standard battle, and this new mm system really needs to be looked at for arty. I have had plenty of games where there is 8 arty a side and predonminantly t8, and all u can do is hide or go for a sunday drive.
i'll give these new modes a rating out of 10, they get 2. No effort at all was applied in making these new modes.
cheers!.
Edited by xvpunisher007vx, Aug 30 2012 - 07:11.
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