Super Pershing OP
Posted Sep 16 2012 - 20:58
Posted Sep 16 2012 - 21:11
Sorry you felt the need to insult me
Edited by Gryphon_, Sep 16 2012 - 21:12.
Posted Sep 16 2012 - 22:21
Other tanks, green reticule = pen = damage. SP, not.
If I cant pen the SP at any given spot, then the reticule shouldnt be green.Game should work the same way for all tanks. This is a bug with the SP and I've submitted a ticket.
Posted Sep 17 2012 - 00:58
my verdict... super pershings are OP for medium tanks...it's better than the m26..sometimes better than e-50,patton,or t54s..but it's OP for now..wait til WG nerf it and release a new premium tank..though mid penetration gun..the armor makes it OP..
Posted Sep 17 2012 - 04:46
I might buy one, just because I am going down the US med and well underway on the grind for the M26. I wouldn't mind having it for training and such.
By the way, How fast is this thing? I am used to a Matilda (24K) so if its faster than that... goody
Posted Sep 17 2012 - 05:51
Posted Sep 17 2012 - 23:40
From what I hear the Super Pershing's armor amounts to a 220 mm, but if a round is deflecting within the armor layers it's going to sloth off armor quickly and not heal itself like the game does.
Posted Sep 18 2012 - 00:45
Its pretty good overall, and alot of players dont play it nor fight it well, but its not OP. Its got piss poor speed and not very manuverable......the gun is aight and overall, I quite enjoyed my 9 games on the Test in the SP.
Posted Sep 18 2012 - 10:26
Posted Sep 18 2012 - 10:44
the super persing is like every other american tank YOU CANNOT GO RAMBO WITH IT AND EXECPT TO SURIVE.
and it's slow as hell you get flanked in an SP your good as dead
Posted Sep 20 2012 - 06:32
Posted Sep 20 2012 - 16:33
Posted Sep 20 2012 - 20:23
it's taken me a while to get the hang of driving this tank. as JSSUPER said 8 posts above, it's useful for crew training and credit farming. it can also be quite fun if played properly and you have a team where it is not forced into a role as a front-line tank. many have suggested to play it more like a german heavy tank (in a more supportive role). with a good crew in it, it makes a very good quasi-sniper tank because keeping it at longer range form those who have figured out where to hit it is critical. even so, that spaced armour makes it very survivable in close quarters from those who insist on aiming at the glacis plates. although painfully slow, it does get up to speed fast, and rotates well. 105 gas does indeed help. my win% grew from an early 32% to about 46% now (85 matches), and presently i win much more often than not in it. like all premium tanks, it has very average stats when compared to similarly tiered counterparts that can only be earned through play (e.g. an elited Panther II eats a SP like biscuits for tea)...
Edited by MachFive, Sep 20 2012 - 20:28.
Posted Sep 24 2012 - 20:17
Posted Sep 24 2012 - 20:21
I wish it was that easy. I have over 200 battles in it now. Right up until the past 2 weeks, its been a decent enough tank. I averaged 581xp and a 57% win rate (no premium account). In the past two weeks I've dropped down to barely over 500xp with a 51% win rate. People know how to defeat the SP now, and its weaknesses are exploited to the extreme by those who have come across them before. It is not the armored brute of a medium it once was. Arty hammers the hell out of them immediately if they can, and with it being so slow theyre dead ducks.
Posted Sep 24 2012 - 22:01
Posted Sep 25 2012 - 08:59
I am seriously wondering what universe people live in where the Super Pershing is overpowered, let alone a good tank. I have driven one and have fought against them, and it is better to be facing off against one than driving in it. The armor is inconsistent at best, and anyone with a brain or high pen gun will find a way through frontally. The tank is plodding, only able to reach any reasonable speed downhill. The gun has anemic penetration meaning you will rarely have the opportunity to utilize its solid DPM. My Type on the other hand is hilariously better; considering the turret will bounce a ludicrous amount of shots and it has the mobility to make use of its pea shooter, something no other tier 8 premium can really brag. I consider myself a decent player, but I have to work really hard to get results out of the SP.
The Super Pershing is only a terror if you are in a tier 6 tank or you cannot aim. It is too slow to really take advantage of its gun, and like the KV-5 there are enough holes in its frontal armor for decent players to exploit. If they had given it a little more pen or HP it would be a pretty mean machine. To say it is better than the M26 or the tier 9s you list is simply lunacy. I mean how terrible a player are you when a tank with a 170 pen gun is threatening your E-50 or T-54? Especially since all the upgraded tier 9 medium guns can shred the SP with relative ease. The M26 is also superior since it does not move like it took a shot to the engine at the beginning of the round.
Edited by unlawfulsoup, Sep 25 2012 - 09:01.
Posted Sep 25 2012 - 14:29
Posted Sep 25 2012 - 16:23
I said turret. Most of the time if I am taking hits I am forcing people into shooting it, ie: when I am circling people or when I go hull down.
Posted Sep 25 2012 - 21:01
Then just cange page and see a thread arguing its OP.
It is neither.
For its price its a bargain Premium tier eight and can be effective if driven well.
But with all due respect it has cheese frontal wealpoints to pen.
And its side and rear armour are penetration by light tanks gun bad.
And consider its mobility issues thats not a good thing.
Its best used like a pershing in support of heavy tanks.
Because the turret has its weakspot hit box you can't hull down as well and need to keep turret moving to avoid guys sniping your hit boxes.
Of course since it IS a tier eight some tier sevens and many tier six tanks have some trouble with it.
But get caught without support by easyeight or French or T34-85. And the VKmedium family ..your a stat.
With support on your flanks you can gobble these up along with some bad heavy tank drivers.
It can be tough on guys who do not use the wiki and look up the hit boxes because spaced armour almost always shows green.
You do pen the first plate just bounce off the plate behind it.
Just like guys learned how to torch Type59 's they will learn super pershings.
Until they do enjoy the tank, its a steel wall waiting to happen if you get decent MM.