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Frits97 #1 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 15:25

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I was wondering.... there are just 2 chinese tanks in game, both of them being preium. And that's all cool, but there are so many chinese tanks that could be "considered". I saw another topic about a "chinese tech tree" witch wasn't verry possitive...... some of thos tanks wich where sugested were japanese, He considered the type 59 as a normal tier 4 tank.... witch is rediculous.......
But what about a tech tree witch will be a side-tree from the soviet  med tanks (a bit like real life) Let the prems tasy prems and make a bit more of those great chinees tanks witch aren't premiums....

All ideas are welcome to be posted!

Edited by Frits97, Sep 25 2012 - 15:32.


MisterPatriot #2 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 15:31

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Its spelled Chinese, not "chinees".

Frits97 #3 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 15:32

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Sorry for the misspelling..... thanks for saying!

Are their any other sugestions? I see that most of you would like something else than a side-tree from the soviet med line... so are there any ideas?
And are there any tanks you would like to see in game?

Edited by Frits97, Sep 25 2012 - 15:42.


Leonardo2k #4 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 15:43

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i think they will add the chinese tech tree or something like asia tech tree... like europe tech tree

Edited by Leonardo2k, Sep 25 2012 - 15:46.


Gezeiten #5 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 15:46

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The devs already considered this as...not possible (yet), because there were not enough tanks that were truly made by chinese, many tanks types serving in China now were from other countries (Russia mostly) or domestic modded tanks' production. The Chinese made some modifications to those imported tanks to make them theirs...such a cheap method.
Imagine a Chinese tree to be releashed, most of the tanks are cheap copy of Soviet design...erm, no, I don't want it.

Making it as a side tree to the Soviet one isn't a bad idea either...but Russian driving Chinese tanks? Don't Russian have better tanks than Chinese? Why would they drive something that was modded from their country's tanks? Would the "made in China" tanks have good quality or just stay on the level of "made in China" goods?
I'd say no to all but keeping existing Chinese tanks as prem, although I do want to have Chinese tanks out of the list though, that Type 59 is damn tricky for tier6-7 meds to penetrate frontally.

Asia tree might not happens either, cuz many Asian countries didn't field as many tanks as European/Russian/American nor developed many around WWII era. Many Asian countries that time didn't have sufficient power to start Heavyarmor development either...neither today (perhaps).

Edited by Gezeiten, Sep 25 2012 - 15:47.


Tenoori_Taiga #6 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 15:49

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No chinese tree is planned, though a japanese tech tree is planned for release after the british

Vollketten #7 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 15:50

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The devs can fill in the gaps with versions of russian stuff if they like, I wouldn't be too upset about a new tech tree, but I'm still waiting for those British tanks.

http://youtu.be/NH2P_pVze6s

BladedPheonix #8 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 16:05

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I dont think china even had any tanks in ww2, and due to this japan didnt start developing tanks until about 1941? However, China started making tons of different tanks deisgns,"mostly russian tanks that were modified or were using russian tanks as a base model" during the cold war. I think today china has like 5 tanks, but since Wargaming staff said they were not going to place any tanks after the korean war due to them being so powerfull, china would be at a huge disadvantage tree strength wise.
The tree would also probly be very small and since china didnt develope a TD project line like america and russia the tree would only be lights, mediums, a few heavies and maybe arty. :Smile-bajan2:

Knight58 #9 Posted Sep 25 2012 - 16:26

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One of the biggest problems with the Chinese tree idea is that as already said above the designs are soviet based and taken from technology lease agreements between old communist allies and export contracts. in short the product was basicly the same.If you pick up the JANE's military overview a bible of the military tech you will see the the overlap. When the Chinese bought thier contacts they made small changes and resold to export partners under and new designation eg Russian T54 / Chinese T59 but often the design was not as a exact copy and was somtime's inferior in design to the the Russian models.

Lahn266 #10 Posted Oct 25 2012 - 09:38

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Why not considering the Nationalist Chinese tanks instead of the Communist? We have some self-developed tanks here, and they will fit in nicely.

http://blog.xuite.ne...Food01/34559980

This is a blog with pictures taken from the Tank museum in Taiwan. I would like to have a Type 64, M-41D and a CM-12!

Edited by Lahn266, Oct 25 2012 - 09:42.


Lahn266 #11 Posted Oct 25 2012 - 09:48

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this is a list of all tanks which served the Nationalist Chinese Army:

Vickers Carden Loyd
Vickers 6t
Vickers Amphibious
FT-17
PanzerKampfwagen.I
CV-33
T-26
Renault UE
Type 2589B
Type 2594
Type 2595
Type 2597
Type 2597-1
M3A3
M5A1
M4A4 Sherman
M24
M41A1/A3
*M41D
*Type 64
M48A1/A2/A3
*CM11
*CM12
M60A3 TTS

* = Taiwanese/Nationalist made