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Jewel_Thief #1 Posted Oct 02 2012 - 21:27

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For the purpose of general discussion on Heavy Tanks, within the 8.x update.

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tankcrunch #2 Posted Oct 02 2012 - 21:29

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my IS-2 and KV-2 is still as more awesome as ever before!

_Ruffles_ #3 Posted Oct 02 2012 - 21:29

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How does the IS-4M's armour hold up now? Are penetrations through the front-center still common as they were when the IS-4 had the hatch?

IS-3 still performs beautifully.

_Anfield_ #4 Posted Oct 02 2012 - 21:32

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For the longest time I've been a defender of the E100 saying it doesn't really need penetration increase, rather than the other "buffs" I would of taken a higher RoF. However, after 8.0 we are now at the point where it can no longer penetrate all tier 10 tanks from the front without super high rng rolls (with 16.5 sec reload that's not reliable). Normalization changes have made it near impossible to pen T110E3/4's lower plate and Maus turrets. I believe the E100 now does require a penetration increase for AP rounds.

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My_Name_Is_Reek #5 Posted Oct 02 2012 - 21:46

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View PostAnfield, on Oct 02 2012 - 21:32, said:

For the longest time I've been a defender of the E100 saying it doesn't really need penetration increase, rather than the other "buffs" I would of taken a higher RoF. However, after 8.0 we are now at the point where it can no longer penetrate all tier 10 tanks from the front without super high rng rolls (with 16.5 sec reload that's not reliable). Normalization changes have made it near impossible to pen T110E3/4's lower plate and Maus turrets. I believe the E100 now does require a penetration increase for AP rounds.

Yes i agree the e 100 was perfect before especially before they messed around with the rate of fire (i didnt mind the old accuracy) and also the normalization really hurts it

CamaroMullet #6 Posted Oct 02 2012 - 22:02

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View Post_Ruffles_, on Oct 02 2012 - 21:29, said:

How does the IS-4M's armour hold up now? Are penetrations through the front-center still common as they were when the IS-4 had the hatch?

IS-3 still performs beautifully.

I haven't noticed anything different with the IS-4, other than it looks extra sexy!

934TXS #7 Posted Oct 21 2012 - 11:10

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Im at a crossroads, i have the xp for both Tiger (P) and the T29, but the credits and garage slot for 1... so which tier 7 heavy should i get? The tigerP sorta sounds more like an aggressive playstyle which i prefer, but the forums and wiki seem to indicate the T29 is hands down the best tier 7 heavy.

ThunderingTitan #8 Posted Nov 03 2012 - 18:31

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T29 is an outstanding tank, still one of my favorites.

GearaDoga #9 Posted Nov 16 2012 - 03:02

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The top tier German heavies are suffering really badly with credit-gold shells now commonplace.  My E-75 didn't bounce much fire from all the new superguns before 8.1, and since the patch it's just been getting torn apart in situations where it used to at least have a chance of bouncing.  

For a tank that relies entirely on armor thanks to an overwhelmingly underpowered gun, having its armor made all but irrelevant is NOT helping matters at all.

Shadow77777778 #10 Posted Nov 19 2012 - 21:36

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The only thing I have to say is, there was a time where I enjoyed playing my Tiger P, but now, it's a lot harder to do so.

Kellkore #11 Posted Nov 25 2012 - 04:01

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Yes, it does seem that most if not all the advantages of the German vehicles have been made mute.  Take for instance the Tiger, Tier 7, it's armor is penetrated more often than anything.  The top tier gun seems underpowered, bouncing off even Tier 5.  I feel they don't get the respect from the developers much, maybe because their German Tanks?  And no one wants to think that the Germans might be good at tank development.   There, I vented.

Zeramas #12 Posted Nov 30 2012 - 19:25

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1 single thread for all the heavy tanks we have in game? How is this supposed to help the forums and the feedback?

Anyway. Buff the VK4502 (P) Ausf. B. That's all I say.

Zeramas #13 Posted Nov 30 2012 - 19:30

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View PostGearaDoga, on Nov 16 2012 - 03:02, said:

The top tier German heavies are suffering really badly with credit-gold shells now commonplace.  My E-75 didn't bounce much fire from all the new superguns before 8.1, and since the patch it's just been getting torn apart in situations where it used to at least have a chance of bouncing.  

For a tank that relies entirely on armor thanks to an overwhelmingly underpowered gun, having its armor made all but irrelevant is NOT helping matters at all.

What-the-hell are you talking about?

"overwhelmingly underpowered gun"? The 128mm/L55? What are you smoking dude?

That, and take an IS-8 if you want to get torn apart, thanks to its inexistent armor. You won't need to get hit with "credit-gold shells": any regular AP round from its tier can penetrate the front of the turret and hull. Oh and don't come with that "top speed is better" crap, since mobility is similar in practice, and the IS-8 cannot pivot neither.

GearaDoga #14 Posted Dec 01 2012 - 05:15

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View Postohsi, on Nov 30 2012 - 19:30, said:

What-the-hell are you talking about?

"overwhelmingly underpowered gun"? The 128mm/L55? What are you smoking dude?

That, and take an IS-8 if you want to get torn apart, thanks to its inexistent armor. You won't need to get hit with "credit-gold shells": any regular AP round from its tier can penetrate the front of the turret and hull. Oh and don't come with that "top speed is better" crap, since mobility is similar in practice, and the IS-8 cannot pivot neither.

News flash...  The 128mm is the worst gun in T9 in all aspects other than Alpha damage, and by a good margin in many cases.  By definition it has a harder time against comparable opposition than anything else in its tier.

The IS-8 may be thin skinned, but it's smaller, lighter, has a better power to weight ratio, faster top speed, better turn rate, and a faster turret.  Not to mention a much better gun.  

And remember, the E-75's lower plate and turret front are well within penetration range for the other T9's.  The turret face in particular gets more and more porous with every day.

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View PostGearaDoga, on Dec 01 2012 - 05:15, said:

News flash...  The 128mm is the worst gun in T9 in all aspects other than Alpha damage, and by a good margin in many cases.  By definition it has a harder time against comparable opposition than anything else in its tier.

The IS-8 may be thin skinned, but it's smaller, lighter, has a better power to weight ratio, faster top speed, better turn rate, and a faster turret.  Not to mention a much better gun.  

And remember, the E-75's lower plate and turret front are well within penetration range for the other T9's.  The turret face in particular gets more and more porous with every day.

There is no statistic that shows that the E-75 is worse than any other tier 9 tank, in any server. And it's not thanks to "German tanks drivers awesome skill".

The tank is fine, if you want to whine, whine about the VK4502 (P) B, and other tanks that are in fact underperforming compared with others.

MercuryRising #16 Posted Dec 15 2012 - 06:05

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Uh... IS-4 could use some buffs... I immediately replaced mine with an IS-7 (Considering the 7 is much better to play with)

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Can I have either my money or exp. back?   I have played for awhile now, and my American T110E5 has been reduced to a slow rolling, no armor, long reload, no pen. and if pen. no damage tank.  I pm'd a GM online and no response.  I am sick and tired of the stat mods you give other country's tanks vs American tanks.  If American tanks suck so much how come the US won WWII.  Either refund my money or exp so I can roll a Russian tank which seems to have the uncanny ability to pen any tank in the thickest spots...hmmmm.

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 Magnumopus, on Dec 18 2012 - 19:15, said:

Can I have either my money or exp. back?   I have played for awhile now, and my American T110E5 has been reduced to a slow rolling, no armor, long reload, no pen. and if pen. no damage tank.  I pm'd a GM online and no response.  I am sick and tired of the stat mods you give other country's tanks vs American tanks.  If American tanks suck so much how come the US won WWII.  Either refund my money or exp so I can roll a Russian tank which seems to have the uncanny ability to pen any tank in the thickest spots...hmmmm.
we won it by the germans running low on materials... + t110 wasnt in ww2 and is an awesome tank

Battleship_Constitution #19 Posted Dec 27 2012 - 02:52

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E-100 rolls have seemed to drop....Not like I was penning things left and right to start. the e-100 in this game was built for one thing...kill the target with 600 or less hit points or hurt a tartget near or at full health to make them think twice about pushing...however with lower pen and HEAT doing zero pen damage the roll of the tank changed to "be arty target and like it".

It has caused me to stop playing the tank period.

Battleship_Constitution #20 Posted Dec 27 2012 - 02:55

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the 128 on the e-75 and maus (same gun) is a great gun...alpha is low but with decent pen and ACC it is a great sniper....the German lines are not brawling tanks more a close support or link brake tank. they are far to slow at being up front and in your face.




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