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Hey folks,

Looking into buying my first premium tank its a toss up between the T34 american tier 8 heavy or the super pershing T26E4. iv looked at the stats and the pershing seems to me to be the more fun to play since has a great balance of armour and gun where the T34 has very weak hull although a near bullet proof turret.

Has anyone got first hand experience with these tanks what ya think ?

the super P is slow and good armor and the t34 can take any gold round to the turret love my t34

You would have fun with both.

My T34 is one of my most-played tanks and the SP is getting to that point too.

The biggest thing about these two is you will have a training vehicle for your American medium and heavy lines.  That's the key to having these two.  The free XP and credit generation is just a fringe benefit.  The T34 has some of the best credit generation potential of all the premiums I currently own, and I own many.

The T34 has the typical weak hull and impenetrable turret, and the gun can be a pain in terms of accuracy, dispersal  and rate of fire. However, if you mount the GLD, vents and rammer, some of that pain can be avoided.  It's also slow, but not as slow as the Lowe and SP.

The SP has the famous troll frontal armour even though it has glaring weak spots - the two cupolas.  The gun is fairly accurate with a good rate of fire but not a lot of alpha, and the tank is sloooooooow.  You also have to be careful when platooning wiith other Tier 8s, because the SP has preferential matchmaking.  If you platoon with a regular Tier 8 you will probably get dragged into Tier 10 matches you wouldn't ordinarily see.  I recommend platooning with other SPs, JT 88s, IS-6s and/or KV-5s.

I find the most useful function of the SP is to distract the enemy and soak up a s**t-ton of damage to save your team-mates the trouble.  While the enemy team is busy trying to get at you, get past you or just figure out where to shoot you, your team-mates can take care of business.

I recommend both.  The SP is cheaper, and might get you more lulz.  The T34 will probably get you more credits.

yes i played both and a few nights ago sold the super the super has good armour but its slow for a med and the gun will not always pen the t34 has a great gun good pen nice dmg. mind you the tank is better for hull down work and is ment to be played like any other us hvy tank.

Super Pershing is very nice. Lower penetration gun and low damage per shot compared to the T34, but the armor... That thing since 8.0 is almost indestructable to EVERYTHING, unless they are actually smart and know where to aim.

T34 I do not have experience with (yet), but I've heard that it has a great cannon but can be penetrated by almost everything it sees.

Best summary would be:

Super Pershing if you want armor and the ability to take on 5 people frontally and beat them.

T34 if you want a big gun.

Again, I don't have the T34, so therefore I cannot compare other aspects such as moneymaking or fun. However, the SP generally has a gross income of about 40-50k without premium if that helps you at all.

waffle1991, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:10, said:

T34 takes considerable planning and map knowledge to get the best out of it.

just like i said the super p has armor and t34 has a gun and speed and u can NOT pen the turret with any gold round

Fatality, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:18, said:

Hmmmm....not really, tried this in pubs a couple of times, Tier 7 and above gold rounds will pen........frontally less likely, but side and rear will....

Oh, I forgot to mention.  If you get the SP, be sure to make it hard for people to hit your weak spots (the cupolas) by wiggling your turret when you're not firing on the enemy.  I've seen it work, and I'm still trying to get used to the idea of wiggling any part of my tank to avoid damage.

alexsyl007, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:24, said:

i said the turret not the front armor

ChairmanMilo, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:26, said:

I simply move my hull and my turret at the same time. Not only does this make it much harder to get a read on my turret, but also makes it INCREDIBLY hard to get a shot on any weak spots on my hull. I just do that in strange paterns and it seems that most people I meet with it can't adjust.

Fatality, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:28, said:

I think that's what he meant, they can't pen the front of the turret but they can pen the sides of the turret.
Edited by Thompson153, Oct 05 2012 - 18:29.

Thompson153, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:28, said:

yes i know that the sides of the turret and back can be pened

The correct answer is whichever class of tank you want a better crew in, your American medium or heavy tanks.  If you prefer your M48, get the Super Pershing.  If you prefer your E5, get the T34.

If you don't care, the T34 is more noob friendly in that the gun is quite excellent.  The SP gets better MM treatment, spending the vast majority of its games as top tiered tank.  It will occasionally be placed in a tier 9 match, but unless you mess up your platooning, you will never see a tier 10 tank.  The T34 sees tier 9 and 10 matches quite regularly.

The Super Pershing requires a more subtle style of play, but if you do it right, it's utterly overpowered.  I have a 75% win rate in my SP and more than 1k a game xp.  Averaging 80k credits per battle in it.

Fatality, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:30, said:

http://wotarmory.com...-frontal-armor/

Shoot the turret ring and the pair of guns on the top of a Super Pershing to take them out.  You should see them panic when they face you one on one and realize they are taking damage from your shots.  Lots of Super Pershing players don't seem to be able to properly adjust to that revelation.

both are nice and fun to drive.  but quite frankly you cant beat the t34 gun.  it allows that tank to play into the tier nine and ten tanks and still be able to be effective where the superpershing will struggle with those tiers.  if money is not a object i would still go with the t34.  if money is a concern the super p.  i got both so I can train my american medium and heavy crews though.

Personally, I think the T26E4 is complete trash, but that knowledge comes from fighting them with my Type 59 and Tiger 2...

Nishith, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:47, said:

Agreed, as one who drives them and fights against them. The T34 at least has the really potent 120mm gun w/the traditional US super turret. The only reason to get a Super Pershing is because you are cheap or you really want to train a US medium crew.

Nishith, on Oct 05 2012 - 18:47, said:

You've never faced a good SP driver if you regularly beat them in your Type 59.  I eat those for lunch.

I own both and from a money making aspect I find the T34 to be better. Larger Alpha and if your selective with your shots the expense of the rounds is not that dramatic. Both are fun to play and I think the choice really comes down to which crew you want to train, heavy or Med.

Pure money maker Prem the best T8 is the JT88.
Edited by sepplainer, Oct 05 2012 - 18:54.

I have both, and i think i would get the SuperPershing if you only can buy one...

But be aware =P the gun have low penetration, to be a "Medium-heavie"...

But SP, have SuperTrolling Armor, can bounce BL-10   (problem OP russians?)