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WreckinBall #1 Posted Oct 15 2012 - 23:35

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Ok so iv been on test playing the new british Fv4202 and iv been playing the M48 to compare them as the two tanks are almost a copy and paste of each other stat wise.  So far im thinking if they keep the stats of the FV4202 as they are it will replace the M48 tank.  The reason is the FV4202 does what the M48 does but better.  The FV4202 has better armor, more horse power to weight ratio, more acurate gun, less aim time, faster hull rotation, same fire rate, damage, and pen as the m48 gun and to top it all off the FV4202 can cary HESH rounds which are very powerful.  The only thing i can see that the M48 beats the Fv4202 in is top speed by 5kph.  Now granted this is if the stats remain the way they are.  If wargaming nerfs the Fv we will have to see how it stacks up after the nerf bat but for now the FV looks like a very good tank.

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Looks like I gotta grind the British medium line, thanks for the info  :Smile_Default:

MisterPatriot #3 Posted Oct 15 2012 - 23:47

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FV4202 has no turret armor, and has a very low top speed.

WreckinBall #4 Posted Oct 15 2012 - 23:52

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the turret armor is very sloped iv bouced numerous rounds off of it everything from an e100 round to other tier 10 medium and heavy tanks.  And yest it is slow but so is the M48 the speed difrence is only 5kph.  This is barely noticable in game mostly becuase the Fv has a higher Horse power to weight ratio so slopes and bumps dont slow the FV down like they do to the patton 3.

GoldMountain #5 Posted Oct 16 2012 - 00:00

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View PostM18HellCat, on Oct 15 2012 - 23:47, said:

FV4202 has no turret armor, and has a very low top speed.
On the contrary the turret is adequately well armoured and has a much smaller profile compared to the Patton.

All the vertical Front/Side area's are 196mm thick (Including the Commanders Cupola)
Sloped front is 125mm @ 60 degree's roughly
Slanted sides are 120mm thick and equivalent to about 65 degree's
The lack of mantle does show as you have no magical disappearing shells but don't think it wise to use your own HESH against one anywhere except the lower front plate and into the gun.

It may have a low top speed but it is easily the most manoeuvrable tier 10 medium tank.

Edited by GoldMountain, Oct 16 2012 - 00:02.


GW_Panther #6 Posted Oct 16 2012 - 00:01

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HESH are useless. I fired about 10 of tehm into the rear of a lowe for 100 damage a piece. Gold HESH too.

WreckinBall #7 Posted Oct 16 2012 - 00:07

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Now im not saying the turret or hull will bounce like crazy but they will bounce stuff more frequent then other mediums, cept say for the t62a hull down its turret is pretty bouncy.  The Fv does have one weakness that i should mention but i havnt had any trouble with it as of yet.  That weakness is that you can not depress the gun when facing the rear of the tank you can only fire lvl or higher.  This can be exploited by enemy tanks but as i said i havnt had it done to me yet but in theory if you tracked an FV and went around to its back side it would only be able to fire at your turret which u can make it hard to hit by rocking the tank back and forth.

DelayedFuse #8 Posted Oct 25 2012 - 16:19

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You forgot to mention a very possible nerfbat to brit tanks in the coming few patches just because it is tradition. (I think FV might get its aim time, accuracy on the move, and etc nerfed a little to match M48's stats even more closely)

Drifter80 #9 Posted Oct 26 2012 - 13:02

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I haven't played the test server for this patch but one thing I've learned is not to get excited by pre-release or first release stats... they usually get nerfed by our communist overlords in the following patch.

KnightCole #10 Posted Oct 26 2012 - 19:16

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According to the WoT video, its not F V 4202, its FeeVee 4202......lol...that was some hilarious shit when I heard them say that..

And all this about HESH rounds, what will they do?  How effective will they be?

HESH=High Explosive Squash Head?  Or So I thought I heard on some Greatest tank battles with the Isreali guys....

Edited by KnightCole, Oct 26 2012 - 19:17.


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View PostKnightCole, on Oct 26 2012 - 19:16, said:

HESH=High Explosive Squash Head?  Or So I thought I heard on some Greatest tank battles with the Isreali guys....
I saw that one too, it's a pretty good show.  :Smile_Default:  I wish they would use WOT for some of their vids. They kind of remind me of them the way they don't show animated crewmen on the AT guns or TDs.

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View PostDrifter80, on Oct 27 2012 - 16:16, said:

I saw that one too, it's a pretty good show.  :Smile_Default:  I wish they would use WOT for some of their vids. They kind of remind me of them the way they don't show animated crewmen on the AT guns or TDs.

The only thing I find annoying about that show is that they keep showing the same clip over and over and over and over and over and over again...its like ZOMFG!  The story is kinda cool, but that redundancy is annoying.

I hope they bring out a 3rd season.

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View PostWreckinBall, on Oct 15 2012 - 23:35, said:

Ok so iv been on test playing the new british Fv4202 and iv been playing the M48 to compare them as the two tanks are almost a copy and paste of each other stat wise.  So far im thinking if they keep the stats of the FV4202 as they are it will replace the M48 tank.  The reason is the FV4202 does what the M48 does but better.  The FV4202 has better armor, more horse power to weight ratio, more acurate gun, less aim time, faster hull rotation, same fire rate, damage, and pen as the m48 gun and to top it all off the FV4202 can cary HESH rounds which are very powerful.  The only thing i can see that the M48 beats the Fv4202 in is top speed by 5kph.  Now granted this is if the stats remain the way they are.  If wargaming nerfs the Fv we will have to see how it stacks up after the nerf bat but for now the FV looks like a very good tank.
dont see how it has better armor, at all. has an inch less on the side hull, for starters, and the turret front is thinner by a bit the extra 11 MM of glacis is equalled byn the better slope of the american tank. the only advatage is has is thicker side turret armor., which im not sure is worth the traderoff of thinner turret front and side hull.not like it has a bigger HP pool either., So, no, it's not clearly a better tank. they seem about equal, depends on play style.

Edited by ShermansWar, Nov 02 2012 - 07:36.


Okeano #14 Posted Nov 02 2012 - 09:28

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Brit meds are size of German heavies, and no gun depression.

DinkyDau #15 Posted Nov 02 2012 - 16:15

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View PostDelayedFuse, on Oct 25 2012 - 16:19, said:

You forgot to mention a very possible nerfbat to brit tanks in the coming few patches just because it is tradition. (I think FV might get its aim time, accuracy on the move, and etc nerfed a little to match M48's stats even more closely)


This.  It will get nerfed.  They always do.  LOL

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View PostWreckinBall, on Oct 15 2012 - 23:35, said:

Ok so iv been on test playing the new british Fv4202 and iv been playing the M48 to compare them as the two tanks are almost a copy and paste of each other stat wise.  So far im thinking if they keep the stats of the FV4202 as they are it will replace the M48 tank.  The reason is the FV4202 does what the M48 does but better.  The FV4202 has better armor, more horse power to weight ratio, more acurate gun, less aim time, faster hull rotation, same fire rate, damage, and pen as the m48 gun and to top it all off the FV4202 can cary HESH rounds which are very powerful.  The only thing i can see that the M48 beats the Fv4202 in is top speed by 5kph.  Now granted this is if the stats remain the way they are.  If wargaming nerfs the Fv we will have to see how it stacks up after the nerf bat but for now the FV looks like a very good tank.

Those stat differences don't sound very copy and paste to me...

KnightFandragon #17 Posted Nov 02 2012 - 22:59

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The brits have yet to recieve thier rounds in the Nerfbat Chamber......sooo yeah...

If the FeeVee is in fact better then the patton...it wont be soon enough lol.

One attribute the M48 SMOKES the FV in is Looks, the FV4202 looks like total ass imo...the turret is horrd...

Edited by KnightFandragon, Nov 02 2012 - 23:00.


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View PostWreckinBall, on Oct 15 2012 - 23:35, said:

Ok so iv been on test playing the new british Fv4202 and iv been playing the M48 to compare them as the two tanks are almost a copy and paste of each other stat wise.  So far im thinking if they keep the stats of the FV4202 as they are it will replace the M48 tank.  The reason is the FV4202 does what the M48 does but better.  The FV4202 has better armor, more horse power to weight ratio, more acurate gun, less aim time, faster hull rotation, same fire rate, damage, and pen as the m48 gun and to top it all off the FV4202 can cary HESH rounds which are very powerful.  The only thing i can see that the M48 beats the Fv4202 in is top speed by 5kph.  Now granted this is if the stats remain the way they are.  If wargaming nerfs the Fv we will have to see how it stacks up after the nerf bat but for now the FV looks like a very good tank.
the M48 was far better than the current 4202. With out a doubt the nerf bat will come out once again and whack the British tanks' brains out. The M48 is still better and always will be.  :Smile_veryhappy:

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View PostWreckinBall, on Oct 15 2012 - 23:35, said:

Ok so iv been on test playing the new british Fv4202 and iv been playing the M48 to compare them as the two tanks are almost a copy and paste of each other stat wise.  So far im thinking if they keep the stats of the FV4202 as they are it will replace the M48 tank.  The reason is the FV4202 does what the M48 does but better.  The FV4202 has better armor, more horse power to weight ratio, more acurate gun, less aim time, faster hull rotation, same fire rate, damage, and pen as the m48 gun and to top it all off the FV4202 can cary HESH rounds which are very powerful.  The only thing i can see that the M48 beats the Fv4202 in is top speed by 5kph.  Now granted this is if the stats remain the way they are.  If wargaming nerfs the Fv we will have to see how it stacks up after the nerf bat but for now the FV looks like a very good tank.

-1 (could have done this with a tap of a finger but not anymore thanks to WG.

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View PostOkeano, on Nov 02 2012 - 09:28, said:

Brit meds are size of German heavies, and no gun depression.
     The top tier britts have great gun depression you can hull down like the Americans on hills.