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husband #21 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:46

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got to say I love my Tiger II - its precious and delicate like a little flower.

saying that you are obviously a skilled player; and I  think some tanks are more suited to you than others-
I am finding that some tanks, well, I am just better playing with due to my temperament, experience of tactics with that class etc.

Snohoe #22 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:48

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WARNING: Research the top engine on the KT before moving on to the E-75.

My god is that thing slow without it, my T95 literately moves faster than it unless its going down hill. And 225 pen vs tier 10s at T95 speeds? True hell.

Prob the worst experience I've ever had tanking.

OnesFormerSelf #23 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:49

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You would ask for a nerf on your own tank because?

I care about OP tanks unless I'm driving them!

aPyro_ #24 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:50

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i hate this german bias

why does tigera 2 get 105mm fantasy cannin?? Why not get historical weapens? explane.

is3 gets historical bl9 cannin but tigera 2 is fantasy!? BIAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i waste so time on russian line only for wg to bias me. omg

Snohoe #25 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:51

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View PostSilty, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:48, said:

It's fine as long as you get tier 8 games, but get into a tier 10 game and your huge armor becomes a huge and soft target.  No clue how you can even survive with this thing in tier 10 matches.

Snipe with that wonderful gun. Its probably the most RNG god smiled upon gun in the game. Cant recall anytime that it hit anywhere but dead centre of my aiming reticule.

This tank is actually stress reducing after playing less accurate Russian tanks

Bill_Nye_The_RNG_Guy #26 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:51

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View PostSilty, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:48, said:

It's fine as long as you get tier 8 games, but get into a tier 10 game and your huge armor becomes a huge and soft target.  No clue how you can even survive with this thing in tier 10 matches.

Start playing like it's the Tiger H again.

Works for me. Supporting and wolfpacking, otherwise you're doomed.

MaxL_1023 #27 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:51

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You know it's a troll thread when someone petitions for a nerf to a T8 HT they can't break 2K DPG in. I do more damage per game in my KV-1S then you do in your Tiger II. Only one of those two is OP.

Edited by MaxL_1023, Oct 18 2012 - 04:00.


Bill_Nye_The_RNG_Guy #28 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:53

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View PostMaxL_1023, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:51, said:

You know it's a troll thread when someone petitions for a nerf to a T8 HT they can't break 2K DPG in. I do more damage in my KV-1S then you do in your Tiger II. Only one of those two is OP.

But you can't pen anything, so thats a problem.
As a prime german tanker, Pen > Aim > Damage

You've got to get in to break stuff, right?

KaiserWilhelmShatner #29 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:53

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In Okeano World, German tank overpower you!

Okeano #30 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:53

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View Postjacione, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:35, said:

here, let me clarify: almost every tier 8 can repel guns with under 215 pen, um... T110 gun? not even close! 50 less pen, 2 or so less rounds a minute, and less alpha dmg, gets engine damage/lit on fire from the front very easily if hi tin the lower plate, has a rather weak turret,
That's why I said the tier 8 version of it. Ridiculous accuracy, aim time and shell velocity. It's about as OP as Tiger H, since I suspect had I had it elite from the start, its WR would be in the 75%-80%. It's unacceptable that the Tiger series was made so strong. They need to be down fitted to their historical guns.

View PostOnesFormerSelf, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:49, said:

You would ask for a nerf on your own tank because?

I care about OP tanks unless I'm driving them!
Because I'm a good person.

Bill_Nye_The_RNG_Guy #31 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:54

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View PostSilty, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:52, said:

Nah, I played my Tiger H like a medium.  The KT is way too big and slow for this play style.

Well, guess it's just personal playstyle. I think the KT is quite fast now, and it's got pretty excellent acceleration.
Just stay in a group or snipe.

AgentQ #32 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:55

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you know Tiger II received several nerfs, did you?

i can recall:
1. the size of the tank was changed to "historical" number
2. MG and driver's port enlarged

Okeano #33 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 03:56

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View PostMaxL_1023, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:51, said:

You know it's a troll thread when someone petitions for a nerf to a T8 HT they can't break 2K DPG in. I do more damage in my KV-1S then you do in your Tiger II. Only one of those two is OP.

I wouldn't talk when you can't break 1.6k damage yourself in said tank.

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View Post120mm_he, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:46, said:

Restrict it to the short 88.

That should bring it inline.

A massive VK3601.

It might just work.

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View Postricky90, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:36, said:

leave the tiger 2 alone
this.
OP, just cause you found your stat-pad tank doesnt mean everyone else does that well in the KT.

the KT, IS3, T32, AMX50 100 are all well balanced in respect to each other. remove the KTs 105, you HAVE to remove IS3s BL9 and T32s 105. and the AMX50100s 100, which would cripple those tanks and everything that relies on one of those guns for part of a grind. good luck with that.

i happen to love mine.

and people (sixrocket), use the long 105. i dont give a **** about your personal finances, that guns low damage and pen are hinderances.
-88-: 240 damage 203 pen .34 acc 7.8 RpM
105: 320 damage 225 pen .34 acc. 5.3 RpM.

slower reload, but better overall. and people, if you have issues paying 1K per shell, dont go past tier 5, and definatly dont play any soviet tank that uses a 122. oh, and sell your tier 8+ tanks. or go play tier 5 tanks for a while. dont gimp your team cause a poorer gun is cheaper.

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View PostOkeano, on Oct 18 2012 - 03:56, said:

I wouldn't talk when you can't break 1.6k damage yourself in said tank.

I haven't played a game in that for 10 months. I had less then 2000 games played in total when I used that tank, with standard account for most of it. You KT stats are supposedly recent, mine are not. How do you do in your tier 10s?

Lady_Ga_Ga #37 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 04:03

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are you crazy? you talking about german nerf? german tanks are really under powered how you think about nerf?
i think this post is just a troll.

Okeano #38 Posted Oct 18 2012 - 04:03

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View PostMaxL_1023, on Oct 18 2012 - 04:00, said:

I haven't played a game in that for 10 months. I had less then 2000 games played in total when I used that tank, with standard account for most of it. You KT stats are supposedly recent, mine are not. How do you do in your tier 10s?

Well pick it back up and you might just get 90% WR. I'm sorry if I'm not as good as you, but that doesn't change how it's over performing compare to other tanks I'm playing currently.

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View PostOkeano, on Oct 18 2012 - 04:03, said:

Well pick it back up and you might just get 90% WR. I'm sorry if I'm not as good as you, but that doesn't change how it's over performing compare to other tanks I'm playing currently.

You won't realise how mediocre it is until you get good enough to begin exploiting terrain, alpha and mobility. KT can't do things that it needs to do nearly as well, and has no real strength to exploit. Not enough armor, not enough firepower, not enough mobility. I would trade all the frontal armor for the E-75s gun, or be happy with the short 105 if it had 15 HP/Ton and 35 KM/Hr.

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Troll thread detected.

Evacing the premises I am.




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