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Legiondude #21 Posted Nov 08 2012 - 19:58

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Heiliger, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:49, said:

Has there been any word at all since the Dicker Max, about the rest of the German TDs?
Due for Fall 2013

German MT line may or may not be before them

Edited by Legiondude, Nov 08 2012 - 19:58.


Ome_Joop #22 Posted Nov 08 2012 - 20:09

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TinStar_68, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:57, said:

Chinese, Japanese, African...does it matter?  If you don't want a Chinese tank, don't go that line.

Then they should make an option to exclude them during gameplay it would be fine with me!
So we get the option to exclude them???

Chinese tanks? BS! Japanese tanks...sure we eat them alive :)

AdeptusArkainis #23 Posted Nov 08 2012 - 20:13

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KaiserWilhelmShatner, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:55, said:

If they are adding chinese tanks, which are cheap russian knockoffs, can WG add an Israeli line that took western and captured russian-made tanks and refurbished them into true killing machines?
Or do what I did, get the Centurion & Centurion 7/1, slap an Israeli flag on it and bath in its awesomeness.

Only if they had country flags for Iran, Iraq, Egypt, etc. I'd put those on my T-54s and have the Battle of Golan Heights in a training room.

Edited by AdeptusArkainis, Nov 08 2012 - 20:15.


Heiliger #24 Posted Nov 08 2012 - 20:14

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Legiondude, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:58, said:

Due for Fall 2013

German MT line may or may not be before them

So only 2 years after Overlord had projected.   :Smile_sad:   Bummer!  Well it isn't the first time this has happened.  How long did the American tree overhaul take?

Edited by Heiliger, Nov 08 2012 - 20:15.


geographer #25 Posted Nov 08 2012 - 20:30

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Interestingly it appears that some of the "Chinese" tanks...aren't.  The first tanks made BY the Chinese domestically were the type 59(1958) and the type62(1960)...Everything prior to that was acquired from the U.S., Italy, Poland(FT17s), England, Japan, or Russia.

So...we're really getting a "partial Chinese" tree it seems.  However, one must consider that the Chinese simply used what was available from their allies(and captured from their enemies) until the late 1950s, so it would be impossible to simply "make up" low-tier Chinese tanks.  WG has done well to include several of the foreign types actually used by either the PLA or the National Government of China.

Some notable absences in these lower tiers are:

1930s
PzKpfw I, poss tier-2
T26, poss tier-2
BT5, poss tier-3
1940s
M3 Stuart, poss tier-3
M4 Sherman, poss tier-5

Some of these tanks could've been used to flesh out the tree.  In all honesty, an equal argument could be made for a congolmerate tree for "European" countries(Norway, Poland, Czechloslovokia, Italy).

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paradat, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:52, said:

Nope WG will not go past 1959

Sorry Paradat, but the Chinese Type 62 didn't even enter service until 1963, and there is no evidence that it will be removed from service in the near future.  Not too many tanks in this game are STILL in service...

Edited by geographer, Nov 08 2012 - 20:35.


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deathsheads, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:46, said:

The chinese...


Different note, this DOES mean we could see Arab and Israeli modified tanks as well so heres to hoping against hope for that super sherman.
When  i remember correctly.....Israeli tanks where GERMAN tanks BOUGHT from GERMANY! There was a big stink about it once the public found out for certain reasons!

Pringworm #28 Posted Nov 08 2012 - 22:58

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Oh so many mad German players, let me roll in your tears in my Type 59.

therowman #29 Posted Nov 08 2012 - 23:17

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Ownage8397, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:42, said:

I don't even get why they are adding the Chinese tanks, who the heck gives a crap about the Chinese tanks.

Apparently you all bitching about them give a crap about them.

Why should it bother you we are getting chinese tanks, We are ALSO getting the second US line of mediums.


Heiliger, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:40, said:

... It is probably a safe bet that with two new bare bones tech trees to fill (British and Chinese), we will never see the rest of the German TDs. :Smile_sad:

The german line has been changed several times, which is why it hasn't been released.

Gling24 #30 Posted Nov 09 2012 - 03:00

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I'm sure we can scrounge enough tanks for an ANZAC tree, even if half will be tractors and Holdens

brandbll #31 Posted Nov 09 2012 - 05:27

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View Postparadat, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:52, said:

Nope WG will not go past 1959

The AMX 13 90 is from 1965...

Kankou #32 Posted Nov 09 2012 - 07:02

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View PostPringworm, on Nov 08 2012 - 22:58, said:

Oh so many mad German players, let me roll in your tears in my Type 59.
The Panther is enough to take on the Type 59.

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View PostUncleHotte69, on Nov 08 2012 - 20:40, said:

When  i remember correctly.....Israeli tanks where GERMAN tanks BOUGHT from GERMANY! There was a big stink about it once the public found out for certain reasons!
before the merkava 1 israel used usa british and france tanks and the arab used the arab used soviet union tanks


why not put the japanese tanks instead
japan was more powerful in tank manufacturer

Chezik #34 Posted Nov 09 2012 - 20:27

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With the chinese announcement I look forward to rolling thinly armored tanks in my hetzer. Much like the British ones. Seriously, they're just asking for death...

godofdun #35 Posted Nov 09 2012 - 20:31

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View PostHeiliger, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:47, said:

People who want a second M5, Type 59, T-34 or IS in their garage!  lol

With 2 different versions in the chinese tree they could have 3 different T-34s! OH HAPPY DAY.

RolandVH #36 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 21:18

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View Postgodofdun, on Nov 09 2012 - 20:31, said:

With 2 different versions in the chinese tree they could have 3 different T-34s! OH HAPPY DAY.
Six different versions, really. T-34 [C], T-34 [R], T-34-85, Type 58 [literally just a Chinese T-34-85], T-34-1, and T-34-2. That's a lot of T-34s!

1Dominatus #37 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 14:07

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Really it’s ridicules to add China, a nation which developed none of its own designs in the entire period of ww2, when nations like Japan and Italy actually did. Of course the reason they are adding them is entirely financial in nature.

Raven_434 #38 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 22:18

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View PostOme_Joop, on Nov 08 2012 - 19:42, said:

I dont want a chinese tech tree....

Amen.  Aren't like 98% of the Chinese tanks just more Russian tanks?

Barring whatever plans they bought / stole for US tanks...