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Tpaktop2_1 #21 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:33

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It is good to see other IS-7 drivers noticing the same results. Ever since the 8.X updates it has been performing very badly. I am avoiding the IS-7 for the moment until a buff is done. I get a better results with the American M103.

ledhed14 #22 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:33

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All armour is now compromised.
So using a Medium makes sense more now than ever in PUBS.
But you still use IS7 in Clan war right?
I see over a year of this game and IS7 is still a gold standard tank.
Its really got all the goods right?
Didn't every tank suffer equal nerf bat except Russians?
Tell me more because I am almost in IS7 because I STOPED at M103 and E75..and Patton.
And went RUSSIAN.
Because of a general overwhelmingly opposite opinion from other IS7 drivers.
I was saved already twice from buying a E100 ..
So I am listening ..or reading .. And I am thanking everyone who ever told me to keep up with nerfbat wargaming policy and the forum .. Because thanks to them I have nines and not ONE useless tier ten. These threads however have ensured I have LOTS of tier nines ... Wth ya gonna do?It seems no matter what I get it will get bungled anyway. So the only logic that works is get everything and park the nerf and switch to buff until they bungle them again. .... Or save credits time and sanity and don't buy any. Just leave them unlocked. Until musical chairs ends if ever.

MisterPatriot #23 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:34

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View Postledhed14, on Nov 10 2012 - 01:33, said:

All armour is now compromised.
So using a Medium makes sense more now than ever in PUBS.
But you still use IS7 in Clan war right?
I see over a year of this game and IS7 is still a gold standard tank.
Its really got all the goods right?
Didn't every tank suffer equal nerf bat except Russians?
Tell me more because I am almost in IS7 because I STOPED at M103 and E75..and Patton.
And went RUSSIAN.
Because of a general overwhelmingly opposite opinion from other IS7 drivers.
I was saved already twice from buying a E100 ..
So I am listening ..or reading ..

Carry onto the T110.

SHARKMEAT #24 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:37

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It is not the tanks like the IS-7 or any other tank, the problem is the players comming in from all diff servers with there low end computers and high pings which make it very hard to Kill a tank. Player's using hardware and connections only fit for playing Chess or Checkers. The russians are not working to hard to use the SLI video card setup or duel core CPU's or even trying to fix it for Q-Core cpu ver's, but when you see the videos it show  a diff picture of what the game can do running on a Great Computer, it so sad you have a great game like WOT and no player's with good enough computers and desent connections to play the game with out lagging it down.............CHEERS

Mantisman630 #25 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:37

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I cannot believe I am saying this but its actually kind of true...even the "beat the dead horse" tanks of E-100 and Maus at least received changes. Also, even the whopper of the IS-4 even received changes...I would say it is time for the IS-7 to get some buffing as well since it is now more or less paper like compared to other higher tiered tanks. Against lower tiers in a hull down position might work but it just doesn't have the armor, firepower, speed or hitpoints to really make it stand on its own like it used to. Still a balanced tier 10 really, but a buff should be necessary to make it a bit more unique.

timwahoo #26 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:42

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It sucks cos it only has 2100hp

3 hits from my e100 and it is dead

Sometimes 1 or 2 cos the ammo rack is quite easy to hit woth premium ammo

jankar #27 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:44

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I think IS-7 characteristic should be left as it is.

I still can't penetrate IS-7 armor from my Jagdtiger 12,8 cm PaK 44/2 L/61 gun. It is often so frustrating to see IS-7 running carelessly and unaware in an open ground, while I have to take a deep cover after firing each shell and usually I am finished off after firing 2-3 times only.

Another thing is that the match maker should never draw IS-7 and Jagdtiger into the same battle. The two vehicles are separated by an epoch in technological advance in tank design.

chauphan #28 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:46

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Try to use the British medium tier 10 tank it have better gun and good speed than the is 7

Mi_Amore_Cadenza #29 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 01:56

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im a german fanboy but i agree that the is7 is piece of XXXX, i havent seen one in pubs or a while and when i do. it dies as soon as its spotted, it cant maneuver fast enough, and its gun takes way to long to reload, and aim. so i say give it a buff

Corvette__Dude #30 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:00

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you do realize when you angle your frontal armor on the IS-7, it's a straight on shot for other tanks. You are supposed to face them head on...Gold/Silver rounds are supposed to pen. You can't make the IS-7 impervious to those too. EVERYONE is dealing with the same issue as you. Suck it up, and avoid fire as much as possible. Armor just isn't what you can rely on any more with 300+ penning rounds being shot on the battlefield.

Zeramas #31 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:02

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View PostxXImmortalXx, on Nov 10 2012 - 02:00, said:

you do realize when you angle your frontal armor on the IS-7, it's a straight on shot for other tanks. You are supposed to face them head on...Gold/Silver rounds are supposed to pen. You can't make the IS-7 impervious to those too. EVERYONE is dealing with the same issue as you. Suck it up, and avoid fire as much as possible. Armor just isn't what you can rely on any more with 300+ penning rounds being shot on the battlefield.

I already answered that. Thanks, move along.

PresidentJ #32 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:03

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Its not just the is-7, a lot of the old vanguard tanks have been left behind thanks to power creep.  It is why it has taken so many buffs just to get the e100 competitive again.

Tishler #33 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:08

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Well, now you know how E-100 drivers felt.  :Smile_trollface-3:

In all seriousness, I've noticed it just from being in tier 10 matches. They're less scary now. This is just how powercreep works. Hopefully Wargaming will buff it, but just hope they buff it faster than they buffed the E-100 and tier 9 T34.

Edited by Tishler, Nov 10 2012 - 02:12.


Dogbeast #34 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:27

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View Postohsi, on Nov 10 2012 - 01:02, said:

Are there any plans to make the IS-7 worthwile again? Any Developer commenting on this, please?
I mean, right now I'd rather go in an MS-1 into a tier 10 battle. At least I could scout, and it's cheap.

Since 8.1, this tank has become a pile of bull crap. APCR and HEAT rounds (before you rage, yes, I'm ok with gold rounds for silver), are not "flying all over there", but enemies will fire them upon an IS-7 for sure, especially frontally. I was penned at 200 meters by a Tiger II... angled (1). And artillery shells are deadlier than ever.

Also... I was told that the IS-7 was "Le fast tier X tank". BS. Traverse speed in practice seems to be as slow as KV-3's. So yeah, going downhill you reach... what, 45, 50 km/h? -OMG THAT'S OP!!! NERF IT!!!!.... no. I'ts just not enough to nullify this tank's cons (2). The T110E5 is more maneuverable, while having similar frontal armor (except for the tumor), and an accurate, fast, powerful gun.


Some changes I could imagine, without making the IS-7 OP (but that can bring that tier X back on pair to other tier X tanks) (3):

1) Raise traverse speed from 28 to 30 degrees;
2) Lower aiming time from 3.4 (yes, 3.4!! the new british tier X has 1.7!!!) to 3;
3) Raise RoF from 4.38 to 4.7;
4) Add 150 more hp to the tank;
5) Pizza.


Right now the IS-7 is a beta tank, stuck in 8.1 environment. Fail.


Thanks.


PS: German fanboys are not welcome here, and will be trolled to death.



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(1) Just a bit angled, and the guy penetrated my lower hull, which is not always easily concealable.
(2) No, I'm not "doing it wrong" with the IS-7, I have 61% WR and average stats.
(3) I don't give a damn piece of bull crap if the tank is good for CW or not. I want it to be as enjoyable as any other tier X, because it ain't cheaper or easier to research than any other. It requires lots of time (or money) and effort to get. It's a tier 10, dammit!

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Zeramas #35 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:28

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View PostRaptorian6, on Nov 10 2012 - 02:27, said:

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That's ok to post when you are the first in, and nobody posted.

But after 32 constructive interventions, you start so look a bit dumb.

Dieago #36 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:35

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I can't believe how much stupid has infested this thread. Seriously? Do you people have working brains? Screw it if you think I'm rude but read some of these comments...from down right retarded posts to uninformed people who just want to be seen. Jeez.

Kilpanic #37 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:40

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View Postnicofer1985, on Nov 10 2012 - 01:05, said:

Want a great tank? Pay gold to grind the new lines!


Or... you know, play the lower tanks in the tree until you earn your way there.

ThatCrackRockSteadyBeat #38 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:50

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View PostJerryDVP, on Nov 10 2012 - 02:35, said:

I can't believe how much stupid has infested this thread. Seriously? Do you people have working brains? Screw it if you think I'm rude but read some of these comments...from down right retarded posts to uninformed people who just want to be seen. Jeez.
yeah im so wrong

its an armor heavy

Mow_Mow #39 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 02:51

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View PostFazar, on Nov 10 2012 - 01:28, said:

At least you have more DPM and pen than the Maus.

Yes, 10% more DPM and 5% more penetration in exchange for 50% less life...

Zeramas #40 Posted Nov 10 2012 - 03:18

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It's not about comparing tanks, guys. You want to whine about the E-100, go open a proper thread.




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