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Rengoku #1 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:44

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I was just thinking... I love playing my KV5 but the gun's ability to penitrate enemy armor of an equal level heavy is so poor! I mean the KV4 has much better pen than the KV5, and if you look through the other tanks at it level... they all have higher pen then our KV5! I'm not asking for a bigger caliber gun... I'm asking for the same gun (which is the same caliber) the KV4 uses! at least put us on par with others in the same tier level.

Lert #2 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:45

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"I want my rolling fortress of unstoppable doom to have an awesome gun as well, waaah"

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FROMCANADAWITHLOVE #3 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:46

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all the premium tanks are undergunned except for the tetra.

i wish my type had a better tier 8 gun too, hell i wish i had a solid gold toilet.

Tigermisu #4 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:46

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View PostLert, on Nov 13 2012 - 21:45, said:

"I want my rolling fortress of unstoppable doom to have an awesome gun as well, waaah"

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Also, premium tanks are supposed to be inferior to their non-premium counterparts.

Appollosnos #5 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:47

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View PostCanucker, on Nov 13 2012 - 21:46, said:

all the premium tanks are undergunned except for the tetra.

i wish my type had a better tier 8 gun too, hell i wish i had a solid gold toilet.

T34 anyone???

mereelskirata #6 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:48

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The KV-5 is great the way it is, it doesn't need 227 pen. That would be the most OP premium tank, you just need to learn weak spots.

Inferableheater #7 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:49

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What Lert said.... But I would love a unstoppable fortress....

tallstar5 #8 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:50

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It's not necessary. The ZiS-6 is perfectly capable of hitting weakspots on other tier 8s, and it's got enough profit potential to run a few APCR for the tougher targets without losing money. If you give it the ZiS-24, it would be superior to the KV-4 in nearly every way, and that's not how premium tanks are supposed to work.

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View PostAppollosnos, on Nov 13 2012 - 21:47, said:

T34 anyone???

oh that's a good point

ComradeHX #10 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:52

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View PostRengoku, on Nov 13 2012 - 21:44, said:

I was just thinking... I love playing my KV5 but the gun's ability to penitrate enemy armor of an equal level heavy is so poor! I mean the KV4 has much better pen than the KV5, and if you look through the other tanks at it level... they all have higher pen then our KV5! I'm not asking for a bigger caliber gun... I'm asking for the same gun (which is the same caliber) the KV4 uses! at least put us on par with others in the same tier level.
Load APCR.

Even before silver-purchased APCR, my win rate with KV-5 is well above 50%...KV-5 is fine.

I would like more speed buff and agility buff for more fun in ramming, though.

Edited by ComradeHX, Nov 13 2012 - 21:54.


Disturbed25 #11 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 21:54

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SU-122-44, that seems pretty darn well armed for a premium, just saying. Also KV-5 eats my t28 alive at short range. You just need to know the limitations of your tank..... Every tank has a weakness as well as enemy tanks that have advantages/disadvantages versus the said tank.

Gling24 #12 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 22:00

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View PostLert, on Nov 13 2012 - 21:45, said:

"I want my rolling fortress of unstoppable doom to have an awesome gun as well, waaah"

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At least a better gun would mean it can compete in the tier 9 battles it now gets into 4 out of every 5 battles.
I'm not saying it needs to be able to go head to head with every tier 9, it's just with their increased pen and damage they can kill you from ever increasing ranges, and quicker, plus your armour means practically nothing now except for the odd bounce when some poor bugger doesn't know about the R2D2, engine deck etc. It also compounds the problem that while you have a relatively fast firing high DPM gun, increasingly often you can't put it to use with it's average accuracy and low pen at the longer ranges needed to be useful now on the open maps like El Halluf, Prokhorovka, Malinovka, Sand River.
It still works well on tight little city maps where you can easily get weakspots and good angles, but I don't seem to get them very often :P

Edited by Gling24, Nov 13 2012 - 22:07.


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I love my KV-5, and sure it would be nice to have a little more pen...maybe the devs could throw on 5-8mm more pen as a little bit of compensation, but it will never be a 200mm+ pen gun. It's the same with all premiums except the T34, which in exchange for high pen gets crippled with horrible ROF and iffy accuracy. If you actually had to earn the KV-5 instead of just buying it, then I could see being upset...but then again, you probably wouldn't have tried to earn it because it wouldn't make the bucket loads of credits that it does, even with a subpar gun..right?

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View PostRengoku, on Nov 13 2012 - 21:44, said:

I mean the KV4 has much better pen than the KV5
I want my premium tank to be better than a tank on the tech tree that is of equal tier.Posted Image

Rengoku #15 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 22:07

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im not saying i dont know where the weak spots are... nor am i saying that i want "Super Tank"! I'm saying that it should be a little closer at least the the tier tanks its being placed against! Tier 9 like mentioned above... I will ding all day long! and if they get just a sight of me... BLAM! im toast! you mention the T59... look at the ding rate that thing has!!! The KV5 even has issues with it if the 59 knows how to angle himself! Im just saying it needs its gun improved to keep it on par with the British and soon the Chinese... not to mention whats already in game!

Rengoku #16 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 22:15

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or allow it to use the KV4 gun..

122 mm D-25T

Characteristics
122 Caliber (mm)
4,86-5,45 Rate of fire (rounds/min)
175/217/61 Average penetration (mm)
390/390/465 Average damage
0,46 Accuracy at 100m (m)
2,9-3,4 Aiming time (sec)
2590 Weight (kg)
Compatible vehicles
IS, IS-3, KV-3, IS-4, ST-1, KV-4, IS-8

KillerAyvaz #17 Posted Nov 13 2012 - 22:18

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I don't know about you but I love my kv-5s gun, and KV-5 is a my favorite tank. In the righthands it is a beast. Yes it has low pen, but by fighting close range and shooting weakspots you can pen most tanks you come accross. And when that happenes you unlock one of the kv-5s greatest assests...rediclous DPM. Couple that with its high armor and huge(for its tier) health pool and you can shrug off a close range 1 vs 1 with most tier 8s. Especially t34s, since they are basically your opposite, low armor and abysmal dpm, you will come out of a fair exhange with a lot of health left over.

Atm kv-5 gets preferential matchmaking, a few tier 9s, no tier 10s. I hope it doesn't get the kv-4 gun since that would definately change that. I have little problems penetrating things now and love the gun...and have yet to use apcr on it, though no doubt it would come in handy for the tier 9 fights, just always forgot that I had 2 apcr shells in my load out, now with gold ammo for credits I have 8.

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View PostRengoku, on Nov 13 2012 - 22:07, said:

im not saying i dont know where the weak spots are... nor am i saying that i want "Super Tank"! I'm saying that it should be a little closer at least the the tier tanks its being placed against! Tier 9 like mentioned above... I will ding all day long! and if they get just a sight of me... BLAM! im toast! you mention the T59... look at the ding rate that thing has!!! The KV5 even has issues with it if the 59 knows how to angle himself! Im just saying it needs its gun improved to keep it on par with the British and soon the Chinese... not to mention whats already in game!
Type 59 cannot angle its cupola.  And it should be trying to turn away before you ram it for big damage.

View PostGling24, on Nov 13 2012 - 22:00, said:

use with it's average accuracy and low pen at the longer ranges needed to be useful now on the open maps like El Halluf, Prokhorovka, Malinovka, Sand River.
It still works well on tight little city maps where you can easily get weakspots and good angles, but I don't seem to get them very often :P
Those 4 maps all have one thing in common: very high places.

Get there and crash down on puny Type 59(or whatever MT or HT that is lighter than you) and do big damage without shooting; then go point blank to shoot their weakspots.

Edited by ComradeHX, Nov 13 2012 - 23:36.


Rengoku #19 Posted Nov 14 2012 - 00:34

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AS per the tank description...

This tank is known for its enormous hull and turret armor which are the strongest amongst all the premium tanks, but it lacks a proper cannon for its tier.

http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/KV-5

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View PostRengoku, on Nov 14 2012 - 00:34, said:

AS per the tank description...

This tank is known for its enormous hull and turret armor which are the strongest amongst all the premium tanks, but it lacks a proper cannon for its tier.
Description is wrong.

Turret armour is not that great.