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Binocular222 #1 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:13

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I cannot pen tier 7 heavy Black Price frontally, even when I use T29!
Pleaase anyone know its weakspot to shoot at?

Diacom #2 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:15

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Yeah, cause duplicate posts will get ya help faster....

There was one just a bit ago about the same thing.

Edited by Diacom, Nov 20 2012 - 05:16.


Evil_Claws #3 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:20

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I have a hard time in front of churchill VII and black prince's , even aiming at hatches and machine guns ports it does not pen ( even with  175 pen guns ).
They are the only tanks i didnt found weakspots at the front.

Binocular222 #4 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:21

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View PostDiacom, on Nov 20 2012 - 05:15, said:

Yeah, cause duplicate posts will get ya help faster....

There was one just a bit ago about the same thing.
There's something worng with internet connection here, but I just checked, no duplicate post

Mantisman630 #5 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:29

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With zero battles, that could be the issue.

Binocular222 #6 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:31

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View PostMantisman630, on Nov 20 2012 - 05:29, said:

With zero battles, that could be the issue.
I play on different server (4k battles, 55% win rate)

Diacom #7 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:33

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View PostBinocular222, on Nov 20 2012 - 05:21, said:

There's something worng with internet connection here, but I just checked, no duplicate post

You know, your right.  I was wrong, had yours and the other post about the T29 gun post mixed up.  Not a duplicate....

Sorry man, my bad.

bobfart #8 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:43

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just go into a training room with a churchill and start shooting it

Evil_Claws #9 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:50

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View Postbobfart, on Nov 20 2012 - 05:43, said:

just go into a training room with a churchill and start shooting it
But Black Prince and churchill VII has nothing to do with the churchill in armor wise.

Red_Raven_168 #10 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:52

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http://www.wotdb.inf...k&tree=83894551

then click on "vulnerability"

Binocular222 #11 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 06:01

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View PostRed_Raven_168, on Nov 20 2012 - 05:52, said:

http://www.wotdb.inf...k&tree=83894551

then click on "vulnerability"
This show where the module/crew are, but not where's the thinnest amour (or at least I do not see any vulnerable spot in the picture).
Sadly, module/crew are located behind upper front glacis, which is quite impenetrable

Edited by Binocular222, Nov 20 2012 - 06:03.


Red_Raven_168 #12 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 06:23

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View PostBinocular222, on Nov 20 2012 - 06:01, said:

or at least I do not see any vulnerable spot in the picture
look for the green

soluuloi #13 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 06:29

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There is a spot I love to shoot, it is the inner track armor. It's soft, big and easy to pen.

Binocular222 #14 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 07:41

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View Postsoluuloi, on Nov 20 2012 - 06:29, said:

There is a spot I love to shoot, it is the inner track armor. It's soft, big and easy to pen.
Uhm, this means, I have to shoot him with some angle to get the inner track. I'll try this. But if this is the only weak spot, then Black Prince players will soon learn to face their front directly toward you and negate the possibility to damage inner track.

soluuloi #15 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 11:16

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View PostBinocular222, on Nov 20 2012 - 07:41, said:

Uhm, this means, I have to shoot him with some angle to get the inner track. I'll try this. But if this is the only weak spot, then Black Prince players will soon learn to face their front directly toward you and negate the possibility to damage inner track.
Haha, then they are deadmeat anyway. If they angle, I can just shoot at the inner side of the track armor. If they do not angle, I can just shoot the driver hatch or the commander cupola, these spots are just as obvious as the ones on german tanks. Tiger P has more frontal armor but dear, it is just as squishy as Tiger H as long as you know where to shoot. Not sure about BP's lower glacis, I havent tried that place yet but I expect it to be as soft as Churchill's lower glacis.

Edited by soluuloi, Nov 20 2012 - 11:18.


Celes #16 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 13:08

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Lower glacis seems to be where most people shoots and pens, the hatches and the machine gun is close 2nd in where people shoots.
As for the turret, it seems to bounce most shoots from guns with 200pen, although the commanders cupola is still a weakspot but its quite small.

KBoogle #17 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 14:34

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I'm no expert and could be completely wrong, but most likely if you shoot that hatch and the viewport/mgport on the front upper glacis those are weak spots. Also the lower glacis, even though it's very small and sloped, will likely have less armour, too, so you should try shooting there.
Here's picture:
http://img.photobuck...blackPrince.jpg

soluuloi #18 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 15:38

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Posted Image

That is the sweet spot I mentioned. Even tier 5 gun can pen that place. That picture does not belong to me. It seems like I am not the only one who discovered that spot.....

Edited by soluuloi, Nov 20 2012 - 15:39.


Binocular222 #19 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 16:24

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I tried lower hull glacis but still fail. Machine gun port & Hatches are quite small, not very reliable to hit there. Anyway, thank you for nice pictures

KBoogle #20 Posted Nov 20 2012 - 16:37

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If you're fighting it in a T29 you need to get closer. The T29's guns aren't very accurate to hit the weak spots at a distance, but his guns are. So use your faster and more manuevarable T29 to place yourself in a good position and lure the BP out closer to you. Remember also that your turret armour is incredibly thick and will bounce pretty much all of his shots from the front, so try to hull-down when brawling with him either behind terrain or other obstacles.