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The_Chieftain #1 Posted Nov 21 2012 - 20:06

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For the last in our series of Marine tank fights for a while, the keyboard goes back to Ken Estes.

Tarawa and the First USMC Tank vs. Tank Encounter

The landings taking place after Guadalcanal in the Solomons and New Britain by the 1st and 3d Marine Divisions  and Army troops demonstrated the value of the new USMC style of close support tank-infantry teams as well as the continuing exploitation of the LVT as a logistics carrier over the beaches and in marginal terrain inland. They remained, however, mostly unopposed landings which only later demonstrated the marginal value of the standard light tank as an infantry support combat vehicle.  For Marine Corps tank and LVT units, as for the rest of the Fleet Marine Force (FMF), the real changes in doctrine and equipment would come out of the close encounter with disaster that the 2d Marine Division would find at Tarawa.  The fighting for that coral atoll set the standard required for the rest of the Pacific War and the many challenges which remained.  With their participation in Operation “Galvanic,” the seizure of bases in the Gilbert Islands, the Central Pacific drive began for the FMF forces

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Rick_500 #2 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 00:11

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Kool :)

Montykoro #3 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 00:26

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Dead soldier in this pic?

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Grendel61 #4 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 00:30

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As always, great article.  Very interesting and informative.  +1 for the Chieftain.

Zamolxet #5 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 00:43

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Montykoro, on Nov 22 2012 - 00:26, said:

Dead soldier in this pic?



Yes...unlike in this `war`game people die in real wars...

OIS #6 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 00:49

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Very nice compilation, enjoyable to read thank you!

I cannot help but to stick my jab in though, since we're on the topic of Japanese theater of war, of my disappointment ingame of finally being able to play a Chi-Ha but crewed with Chinese? sad eyes. ;-(

Montykoro #7 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 01:21

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Zamolxet, on Nov 22 2012 - 00:43, said:

Yes...unlike in this `war`game people die in real wars...

I know...:( and no respawn point...

Ask, because it did not distinguish whether it was a soldier or not.

Cl4nkCl4nk #8 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 01:30

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Thank you for another excellent article, Chieftan  :Smile_Default:

Snakehead1234 #9 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 02:37

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So when are the Japanese tanks coming? 8.4?

sourkraut #10 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 03:41

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I knew that Cecelia is still there and how she was taken out. But it was interesting to read who commanded her and what she did in combat prior to her abandonment. ( Interesting fact. My current unit is 3/2 that landed at Betio. They still have the Map and battle plan for the invasion of Tarawa on the wall in the COC ).

Edited by sourkraut, Nov 22 2012 - 03:45.


Trooper_Thorn #11 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 03:50

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I had an uncle, Leon who was at Tarawa, Guadicanal and Iwo Jima (U.S.M.C.) We did not know this until he passed away he never spoke about it. We found out at the Full Honors Military Funeral when all honors and Battles fought were read including several decorations major and minor. My father received his Flag by concencious of the family, when my father passed (US Army Paratrooper) The Flag was sent to His oldest son Ricky. May God Truly Bless all who served in the fires of hell and fought against the great evil of their time.

MEAT_BAG #12 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 04:19

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Only been playing for 6 months, love this history segment.

I would love to see an article on the first battles during the seige of Tobruk in WWII.

These battles were important for 2 reasons;
  • First time the Germans suffered a defeat by the allies.
  • Infantry and Artillery (in the main) defeated Tanks.
Many military schools still study these battles for the brilliant techniques employed to defeat a previously undefeated armoured enemy, especially considering the superiority of German armor at the stage of WWII.

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_Kasey__o7 #13 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 15:02

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Very interesting, I liked the report from the living marine very much. Very interesting that not everything was perfectly organized you might think the army knows every step of you.

tigerpaw2 #14 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 15:09

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Snakehead1234, on Nov 22 2012 - 02:37, said:

So when are the Japanese tanks coming? 8.4?
  sorry man ... Japanese didn't have that many tanks.

tigerpaw2 #15 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 15:10

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sgtmaj94, on Nov 22 2012 - 15:09, said:

sorry man ... Japanese didn't have that many tanks.
None that are good ... they pretty much focus on video games :P and today they only have a small defense force so ...

Kankou #16 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 15:11

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Snakehead1234, on Nov 22 2012 - 02:37, said:

So when are the Japanese tanks coming? 8.4?
Current plans: June 2013

Blackhorse_Six_ #17 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 15:21

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Nice piece ... We can never read too much about Tarawa - there's always a fresh story.

For the folks who may not know, the name of the island, Betio, is pronounced Bee-sho.

Betio was a Portugese holding during the early Colonial period.

Col. David M. Shoup, later Commandant of the Marine Corps and recipient of the Medal of Honor at Tarawa, and Lt. Col. Henry P. "Jim" Crowe, commander of the 2nd Battalion 8th Marines at Tarawa, had parts in, and were military advisors for, the 1949 John Wayne movie The Sands of Iwo Jima (Sergeant Stryker).

SMScannonfodder #18 Posted Nov 22 2012 - 15:48

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Thank you for a great read :Smile_honoring:

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good read thanks any chance of some new maps too?

Razven #20 Posted Nov 23 2012 - 08:50

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Interesting, I just went to the New Zealand National Military museum 2 weeks ago and they had some stuff about the American troops here, "lost a tank and then left because they were in a hurry"




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