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JeanneAlter #1 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 15:36

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It's true the IS-4 seems better than an Ausf B. Fast, strong armor, strong gun... but it has a spot on the front armor only about 70mm thick that you can shoot for full damage.

Zoom in on the tank's front and look for something shaped like an upside down triangle. Shoot there-- you will penetrate just about every time (assuming you have an appropriately decent gun-- KT's 105mm L/68 will do just fine) and kill the driver. :)

The IS-7, incidentially, shares this weak point.

Eegie7411 #2 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 15:41

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Thanks for the tip.

Arkhell #3 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 15:50

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i think the spot gets buffed up next round of patches since they are buffing IS-4 frontal armor a bid at that point ;)

shashaveli #4 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 15:52

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Driver Hatch. Never fails.

Heimer_Drago #5 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 15:52

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Why would they buff it. It is already insanely tough to get a round thru it. Making it stronger means it gets OP.

Arkhell #6 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 15:55

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View PostHeimer_Drago, on Nov 24 2010 - 15:52, said:

Why would they buff it. It is already insanely tough to get a round thru it. Making it stronger means it gets OP.


join the club your not the only one who thinks that ;)

Metal #7 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 15:57

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This "weak point" will get "deleted" in next patch, sry.

Xlore #8 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 16:08

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yea the driver hatch is kinda anoying to get hit in, almost 1 crewmember dead on each hit there :P

Hyena #9 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 16:23

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View PostHeimer_Drago, on Nov 24 2010 - 15:52, said:

Why would they buff it. It is already insanely tough to get a round thru it. Making it stronger means it gets OP.

Duh, because everyone knows Russian heavies are the weakest in the game, they need a buff!

.. Oh wait..  :rolleyes:

Deathskyz #10 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 16:23

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Great... when that weak spot is removed, just about nothing will pen the frontal armor, my ferdis maus gun even has trouble

Diamond_Dragon #11 Posted Nov 24 2010 - 17:26

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View PostDeathskyz, on Nov 24 2010 - 16:23, said:

Great... when that weak spot is removed, just about nothing will pen the frontal armor, my ferdis maus gun even has trouble

My Maus's Maus gun even has trouble with it! Thanks for the tip though, I'll be aiming for it next time =3

Supraluminal #12 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 02:36

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Out of curiosity, what's your source on the information re: the frontal weak spot getting removed?

JeanneAlter #13 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 02:47

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The frontal armor in general is getting a 20mm buff but the weak points will remain, for obvious reasons. You can't armor a hatch :)

Finchy #14 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 03:04

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its getting a major armour increase so there goes that weak spot

MacRedrum #15 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 03:23

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There is a way to penetrate below the gun in the turret if you are close. Did it once with a 76mm US gun. But on the other hand it tends to bounce shots that aren't even supposed to be possible to bounce :). Like a 105mm ap round to the ass, suprisingly low pen rate for my shots at least.

Lupusceleri #16 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 06:02

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View PostDeathskyz, on Nov 24 2010 - 16:23, said:

Great... when that weak spot is removed, just about nothing will pen the frontal armor, my ferdis maus gun even has trouble
Yea, the only weak spot left will be lower hull - but can't always reach that obviously. :(

Marie_Korbel #17 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 06:44

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What do you expect from a Russian made game? OF COURSE they are gonna buff the already super armored Russian heavies. :D Soon the might just put a 203mm Howitzer on it that shoots 30 rounds a minute!

Deathskyz #18 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 06:46

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The russian line beats the german line in almost every way, but everyone agrees that the hummel is better than the SU-8... the TD line wins in defense and armor. The normal tank line?? Russian wins

SadPanda #19 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 12:43

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yes the drivers hatch, even i need to aim there with the bl10 from the isu and 286 pen cause if i shoot somewhere else shots bounce all the time, if this spot gets deleted even the strongest gun in the game wont be able to penetrate the is-4 front on a reliable basis. well i guess i know what tank to get after soft wipe now ;)

runn #20 Posted Nov 25 2010 - 12:44

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View PostDarkWolf, on Nov 25 2010 - 08:16, said:

German tanks are also getting a buff.

Collected from Overlord's post over the past few days:

VK4502 is going to see mantle armor increase:
- stock turret 120->160mm
- top turret 120->180mm

The  attached picture shows the mantlet of a vk4502. That sure is an awesome buff. Coupled with the 1% increase in accuracy of the 75mm and the decreased visibility of the 128(that's fired from tanks the size of a house) I'm sure the germans will steamroll those annoying enemy tanks.
        

EDIT: just to be clear, the mantlet is the welding/shield around the gun barrel and does not include the gun barrel itself (and from experience and the wording used they are 2 separate things)

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