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Jefftiffy #1 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 19:46

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Was just in a game with a S35 CA nonstop penetrating my armor when it was angled as a Tiger. I wondered why and looked at its stats. Its gun has 173mm penetration. 2mm less than a 122mm which is a t8 gun.
Why would you give a t5 tank the ability to penetrate t8s? Just nerf the penetration by like 25mm and it will be fine. Doesn't really help that this thing is practically invisible while shooting. It was about 200m away nonstop firing and I couldn't even see it.

People dont't seem to realize that a t5 able to pen 223mm with gold is way overpowered.

Edited by Jefftiffy, Dec 12 2012 - 19:59.


ysoignorant #2 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 19:48

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The 100mm needs a nerf. The others don't.

Alte_Kameraden #3 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 19:49

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Ok.... It's a tank DESTROYER... It has NO ARMOR.... Sounds right... it is basiccaly a T5 marder. With a GREAT gun for its tier... not OP. did I mention it has no armor? Shoot back.

Odirom #4 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 19:50

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why would you do that?

Because it is a tank DESTROYER.

You were angled? By how much? Where was he hitting you? where you moving slowly? Did you zoom in, watch where the shot came from and then kill it with one shot like you should have?

Yeah...not as OP as you might think....It might have this kind of pen because you shouldn't give it more than two chances to shoot at you before you kill it.

Do NOT cry nerf, cry 'I need to play better'.

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edlewies #5 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 19:54

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@ OP:

its a turretless TD that your tiger can fart on and it blows up. just shoot it once problem solved.


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Jefftiffy #6 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 19:58

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View Postedlewies, on Dec 12 2012 - 19:54, said:

@ OP:

its a turretless TD that your tiger can fart on and it blows up. just shoot it once problem solved.


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Yea but no other T5 Td has a gun that can pen a T8 from the front.

Alte_Kameraden #7 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 19:59

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View Postedlewies, on Dec 12 2012 - 19:54, said:

@ OP:

its a turretless TD that your tiger can fart on and it blows up. just shoot it once problem solved.


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Alte_Kameraden #8 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 20:00

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View PostJefftiffy, on Dec 12 2012 - 19:58, said:

Yea but no other T5 Td has a gun that can pen a T8 from the front.
It has no armor to compensate... a TIER ONE CAN KILL IT.

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View PostJefftiffy, on Dec 12 2012 - 19:58, said:

Yea but no other T5 Td has a gun that can pen a T8 from the front.
Actually that is incorrect, all of the tier 5 TDs top gun can pen a tier 8 from the front,.. Thats why they are called 'Tank destroyers'. Just shoot back and not sit there and let it shoot you, Problem solved.

Lert #10 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 20:03

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Yes, because all that matters for a tank's performance is the pen of its gun, right?

Jefftiffy #11 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 20:04

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View PostAntiVibe, on Dec 12 2012 - 20:02, said:

Actually that is incorrect, all of the tier 5 TDs top gun can pen a tier 8 from the front,.. Thats why they are called 'Tank destroyers'. Just shoot back and not sit there and let it shoot you, Problem solved.
Lol no Stug can't even scratch most T7s. has 150mm of pen on its top gun.

Jefftiffy #12 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 20:06

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View PostLert, on Dec 12 2012 - 20:03, said:

Yes, because all that matters for a tank's performance is the pen of its gun, right?
Penetration determines whether or not you can damage them and if a t5 can damage a t8 from the front there is something wrong. It may be small amounts of health relatively but it adds up.

Edited by Jefftiffy, Dec 12 2012 - 20:13.


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So wait it was invisible, you didn't know where it was shooting you from, you were angling against this invisible target and then complain that it penned you? How did you know you weren't angling INTO it to make it easier to go through you?

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View PostLert, on Dec 12 2012 - 20:03, said:

Yes, because all that matters for a tank's performance is the pen of its gun, right?
Lol.. if that was true... Kv-5 would be the worst tank in game for its tier... and the JPE would be the best ahahahahahaha. Nice one Lert :D

Jefftiffy #15 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 20:10

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View PostDeltaVolt, on Dec 12 2012 - 20:06, said:

So wait it was invisible, you didn't know where it was shooting you from, you were angling against this invisible target and then complain that it penned you? How did you know you weren't angling INTO it to make it easier to go through you?
I can see where the shells were hitting from but not the tank. He was to far back to see the smoke trail. And Lert you can get off my thread you troll I've had enough of you in the past. All you do is try to turn everyone against the OP because you don't like what they are saying.

Edited by Jefftiffy, Dec 12 2012 - 20:21.


Riceygringo #16 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 21:15

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Actually S-35CA is just a Su-85-107 without the speed. I would say it's the best tier 5 TD now the Su-85 no longer has the 107

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View PostJefftiffy, on Dec 12 2012 - 19:58, said:

Yea but no other T5 Td has a gun that can pen a T8 from the front.

Because you idiots whined the the SU-85 was over powered with its 107, failing to notice that it had a long reload time and wasn't all that accurate.

Oh, and Lert is completely correct.

Riceygringo #18 Posted Dec 12 2012 - 21:20

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View PostSuichimo, on Dec 12 2012 - 21:18, said:

Because you idiots whined the the SU-85 was over powered with its 107, failing to notice that it had a long reload time and wasn't all that accurate.

Oh, and Lert is completely correct.

You don't need to pen a tier 8 with a tier 5 to prove that it's OP...

tvanderhart #19 Posted Dec 18 2012 - 05:23

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It's so great because the Somua SAu-40 is so TERRIBLE.  They reward you for living through that disaster of a TD.

big_boo_baddy #20 Posted Dec 18 2012 - 12:19

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View PostJefftiffy, on Dec 12 2012 - 20:04, said:

Lol no Stug can't even scratch most T7s. has 150mm of pen on its top gun.

Really, where are you shooting them then? IS (and KV-3) has 120mm front armour, Tiger IE has 100mm, T29 102mm, AMX M4 is 90mm (bit of a slope as well). The only tanks which a Stug should have issues with frontal is the Churchill Mk VII and the Tiger(P) shoot them in the turret or hull front weakspots. The Stug has the second highest pen of all the tier 5 TD's (behind my S-35CA) but it has better front armour than the bath tub, is faster, lower profile and turns more quickly. The S-35 only has it's guns, thats it top speed of about 30kph if you're lucky, going downhill with a tailwind. A massive 56mm of front armour, combined with it being open topped. I can get my bathtub to bounce if I am lucky and the guy shooting at me just throws a round at the front of me.

It's not OP by any means, it suits the actual TD patient style of play since it lacks the armour, mobility and turret to be more aggressive. As for the 105mm gun it's dpm is lower than the potential from the 17lber which I why I stopped using the 105mm although I do miss the alpha........