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The_Entire_Soviet_Union #1 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:12

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I don't use XVM, but I was thinking about how it colour codes player based on how "good" they are. This means during battle a "good" player can be focused on and eliminated based on information not available during regular play. Sorry but I doubt there is a single person who goes down the enemy teams list looking them up on WOT's website.

This just seems to me to be unfair as you're gaining information that's not readily available and it can dramatically swing the tide of battle if you know who to shoot first.



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I don't use it, but I don't really care if people do one way or the other. I was just thinking about the colour coding and it seemed to me to allow access very quickly to information using an automated system. Strikes me as borderline unfair IMO.

Edited by The_Entire_Soviet_Union, Dec 17 2012 - 19:31.


minerguy1 #2 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:15

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Anyone can get it. and a good player should be able to defend themself's

Nemasys #3 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:15

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Everyone can get it and install it, so it is fair.

Kankou #4 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:15

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View PostThe_Entire_Soviet_Union, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:12, said:

This just seems to me to be unfair as you're gaining information that's not readily available

It's just slightly time consuming if you do it the usual way. Nothing that different.

Six_Days_Of_Warfare #5 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:16

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View PostThe_Entire_Soviet_Union, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:12, said:

I don't use XVM, but I was thinking about how it colour codes player based on how "good" they are. This means during battle a "good" player can be focused on and eliminated based on information not available during regular play. Sorry but I doubt there is a single person who goes down the enemy teams list looking them up on WOT's website.

This just seems to me to be unfair as you're gaining information that's not readily available and it can dramatically swing the tide of battle if you know who to shoot first.
If only the people who used XVM were as smart as you make them out to be.

Superspeed007 #6 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:16

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how is using it deemed to be fair or not, if you want to use xvm, then use it, if not then don't, the color coding can be changed according to how the user sees fit, so there can not be something that can be deemed fair or not from a user preference

SolidBeer #7 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:17

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View PostThe_Entire_Soviet_Union, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:12, said:

No. 1: I don't use XVM

No. 2: This just seems to me to be unfair as you're gaining information that's not readily available

No. 1: There is your problem. Use it.

No. 2: Wrong. It is available to everyone.

FlorbFnarb #8 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:17

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View PostThe_Entire_Soviet_Union, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:12, said:

I don't use XVM, but I was thinking about how it colour codes player based on how "good" they are. This means during battle a "good" player can be focused on and eliminated based on information not available during regular play. Sorry but I doubt there is a single person who goes down the enemy teams list looking them up on WOT's website.

This just seems to me to be unfair as you're gaining information that's not readily available and it can dramatically swing the tide of battle if you know who to shoot first.

Of course the information is readily available; it's made available by WG.

Yoott #9 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:18

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I just loaded it again for the first time in a few patches and what I use it for is to see who I can trust on my team.. If I see 4 below avg players charge off 1 direction I make a note that at some point that flank may fall and I position myself to relocate if needed to help it..

Or if Im with someone taking on a tank bigger then both of us and he is a purple player , I know hes not going to totally noob it up and suicide......

I am a green on the charts so not a elite but again it does help to know what you got going.

As for the win/loss at beginning of battle , doesent mean much as ive won on teams with sub 10% chance to win and lost on teams with 95% chance to win

Deusmortis #10 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:18

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Games can be lost just as easily by trying to single out good players, in favor of better targets.

120mm_he #11 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:23

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View Postminerguy1, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:15, said:

Anyone can get it.

Yeah, anyone can get it but what are you really getting?

An uncertified proxy server program that bypasses most of your operating systems net code with an additional download of some user made code.

I think I'm pretty sure most are going to pass on that one.

There is a reason wg banned linking of game modifying exe's on the forums after all.  :Smile-bajan2:

3BAC #12 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:23

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The point of the matter is, that you could go down the list if you really wanted to.  The information is out there, XVM just makes it available in game.
Knowledge is power.  If you don't take advantage of available knowledge, you will always be at or below average.  This is true in life as well.

PubKat #13 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:25

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View PostThe_Entire_Soviet_Union, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:12, said:

This means during battle a "good" player can be focused on and eliminated based on information not available during regular play.

This just seems to me to be unfair as you're gaining information that's not readily available and it can dramatically swing the tide of battle if you know who to shoot first.

I will use this to my advantage. If I see an enemy team going out of their way to focus me. I will purposely put myself in a seemingly bad spot, have hard cover, and let my team work them over for trying to get at me. Sometimes I might not do any dmg, but pretty nice when I have a game where I did 5-10k spotting dmg.

Additionally sometimes when someone has XVM and they see they are going up against you, they will fight more cautious. Good players complain about people using XVM, Great players exploit people using XVM.

xxtaylorxx #14 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:27

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Reminds me of the "unfair hit area skins" that people complained about.

"Get it."
"But I dun wanna!"
"Then that's your problem."
"But it's unfair!"
"So get it"
"But I dun wanna!"

PubKat #15 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:29

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View Postxxtaylorxx, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:27, said:

Reminds me of the "unfair hit area skins" that people complained about.

"Get it."
"But I dun wanna!"
"Then that's your problem."
"But it's unfair!"
"So get it"
"But I dun wanna!"

I used to be one of those people who complained about Hitskins. I finally got them, realized what a huge waste they are and deleted them after 50 battles.

Xpedience #16 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:30

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I like people seeing my XVM rating when I am in arty.. make them afraid.. make them worry where I am be and who I may be looking at :)

Darrigaaz #17 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:33

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View PostThe_Entire_Soviet_Union, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:12, said:

I don't use XVM, but I was thinking about how it colour codes player based on how "good" they are. This means during battle a "good" player can be focused on and eliminated based on information not available during regular play. Sorry but I doubt there is a single person who goes down the enemy teams list looking them up on WOT's website.

This just seems to me to be unfair as you're gaining information that's not readily available and it can dramatically swing the tide of battle if you know who to shoot first.

Actually, I used to do just that.  I had the player search on my 2nd monitor and easily looked up the top 5 tanks on each team every match during the 30 second countdown.

Illusion #18 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:34

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I<3 xvm, all those tanks that used to insta drown themselves when they saw their odds of winning :P

xxtaylorxx #19 Posted Dec 17 2012 - 19:35

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View PostDarrigaaz, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:33, said:



Actually, I used to do just that.  I had the player search on my 2nd monitor and easily looked up the top 5 tanks on each team every match during the 30 second countdown.
BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO A SECOND COMPUTER!! THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!! CHEATER!!!

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View PostIllusion, on Dec 17 2012 - 19:34, said:

I<3 xvm, all those tanks that used to insta drown themselves when they saw their odds of winning :P

They still do... they just pay a bigger repair bill now




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