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Video Review: British Heavy Branch

Content_WG's Photo Content_WG Dec 18 2012

Here is yet another installment of our review of the vehicles of the new British Tank Tree.

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Wunderwaffen1945's Photo Wunderwaffen1945 Dec 18 2012

Nice
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cRommels's Photo cRommels Dec 18 2012

Perfect for absorbing enemy attacks using their advantages in armor? lol what armor? FV215B is the only one with some proper armor.
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Blackhawk874's Photo Blackhawk874 Dec 18 2012

View PostcRommels, on Dec 18 2012 - 16:21, said:

Perfect for absorbing enemy attacks using their advantages in armor? lol what armor? FV215B is the only one with some proper armor.
Go fight a churchill III, I have yet to pen one frontally with my M18.
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Razstrelnikov's Photo Razstrelnikov Dec 18 2012

This will be an entertaining video *Starts watching*

@ 1:55 "just shoot shoot shoot"   Seems to sum up the infantry tanks nicely (Double-tap "R" key, point tank towards enemy base, click on red tanks :Smile_trollface-3:

Overall a nice video, but I feel that it should have recommended platooning when using infantry tanks (They are very difficult to use without teamwork due to low speed :arta: )
Edited by PanzerKampfHase, Dec 18 2012 - 17:02.
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Vollketten's Photo Vollketten Dec 18 2012

Nice video but could the narrator please pronounce 'MK' as 'Mark' and not 'EmKay' please?
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KnightOfZero's Photo KnightOfZero Dec 18 2012

1:04 That's the A13 Cruiser Mk 3, not the A9 Cruiser Mk 1
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rtp099's Photo rtp099 Dec 18 2012

View PostBlackhawk874, on Dec 18 2012 - 16:25, said:

Go fight a churchill III, I have yet to pen one frontally with my M18.

Churchill III is a Russian lend/lease premium, not a British tank in the research tree. Otherwise, it can be penned from the front by the M18 if you know where to aim. The turret front armour is on 88mm and even the lowest gun on the Hellcat can do 101mm of pen.
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A_Defenseless_Kitten's Photo A_Defenseless_Kitten Dec 18 2012

I have kept my Vickers Medium Mk. III
with the QF 2-pdr Mk. IX it can snipe beyond 600m range and has better accuracy then some of my tier 8s
and the gun works really well with the tank
using gold shells with the QF 2-pdr Mk. IX it's pen almost doubles to 120+ making kv turn to butter.
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whitedragonking's Photo whitedragonking Dec 18 2012

about time this came out lol.
thanks though. i did not know it had the best damage per min
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oldkye's Photo oldkye Dec 18 2012

View Postwhitedragonking, on Dec 18 2012 - 17:39, said:

about time this came out lol.
thanks though. i did not know it had the best damage per min
yeah at a glance I stopped at the conqueror due to the fact that both didn't seem to have great armor, both had the same gun, and the rear turret and bad gun depression because of that rear turret are often death traps.
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Knightmare93's Photo Knightmare93 Dec 18 2012

View PostVollketten, on Dec 18 2012 - 16:51, said:

Nice video but could the narrator please pronounce 'MK' as 'Mark' and not 'EmKay' please?

Thank you for pointing it out. I've been getting really iffy about it lately.  :Smile_sceptic:

Other than that, it's an interesting video.
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lSherlockl's Photo lSherlockl Dec 18 2012

lol i love how they describe the old brit tier 10 as being accurate like its predecessor and high ROF and accuracy after they ruined it by turning it into a t110
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thedavemister's Photo thedavemister Dec 18 2012

Nice video. they manage to make crap like the Matilda actually seem worth it. :Smile-angry:
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Lenin1920's Photo Lenin1920 Dec 18 2012

This review is honestly another installment of wargameing patting themselves on the back. yet the british tanks are still crap by comparison to the others of thier tier. If the devs expect clans to use thies tanks in bulk for clan wars then the Tier 10 needs to be capable of dukeing it out with another heavys like the IS7, IS4, and E-100 without relying on an building or other tanks for cover. the idea of a "heavy tank" is not a support role the idea is that heavys are "tanks of the line" and tanks of the line shouldent have to hide to be effective. As they said in the video "the british heavy play similar to american Mediums" i would gladly take an Is4 to a "slow american medium" any day wich is basicly what the FV215B is.
Edited by Lenin1920, Dec 18 2012 - 19:22.
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kmidas16's Photo kmidas16 Dec 18 2012

This video was obviously made prior to the nerf on the FV215B.  Careful not to expose your frontal armor, instead, expose your really weak rear side armor.  If you do that, you'll be penned, but at least you won't be set on fire every 3rd shot from exposing your front.

Oh, and that "best damage per minute" in the game, yeah, that was before the 1.2 second increase in the loading time.  Right now, it has a slightly higher DPM.

The additional armor hasn't changed anything for this Tier X.  Everything still pens it from the front.  It gets set on fire even more often than a Lowe or E-100.  Its only benefit over other heavies was the SIGNIFICANT DPM over the others, but they took that away.  So now its pure crap.

One last thing, let's not forget they put the turret in the back of the tank.  That's a SEVERE handicap in any match, given it has no side armor.

It had limited usage in CW prior to the nerf.  Now is has ZERO usage in CW.  Sorry WG, you blew it on this tank.
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Tpaktop2_1's Photo Tpaktop2_1 Dec 18 2012

Thank you for the info. Its good to see what I have to look forward to on the British line.


Edited by Tpaktop2_1, Dec 18 2012 - 21:04.
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General_von_Nuben's Photo General_von_Nuben Dec 18 2012

"Fairly good armor" on the Caernarvon, that's "well-angled," so I'll get "used to ricochets?

Not against IS-3s, Tiger IIs, VK 4502as, AMX 50-100s, Lowes, T34s, M103s, E-75s, ST-Is, IS-8s or any Tier 10 I won't.  Its hull can't even take a Type 59 hit from the front.

"Very effective at shooting heavy tanks' weak points"?  True, but your hull easily gets penned by everything as you aim for their weak points.  The enemy doesn't need to aim for weakpoints on you; the whole hull might as well not even be there for any tank above T8.

I loved all the Churchills and the Black Prince.  But the Caernarvon is outmatched in its own tier, and horribly outmatched against everything above its tier.  The low alpha is a tremendous liability, especially since you don't have armor that lets you confidently take a second shot against a T8+ tank.  Unlike the Churchills and Black Prince, it CANNOT lead attacks.  It has to move along in the second line.  

I would have preferred high-tier British heavies that could take a hit over this "hide behind cover as much as possible" stuff.  Heavies shouldn't be forced to play like mediums.  They're heavies!
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Ratcheti's Photo Ratcheti Dec 18 2012

These two facts mean that it will be easy for you to rush to an advantageous position - and then you just SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT.  :Smile_trollface-3:
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blackvoid's Photo blackvoid Dec 18 2012

Sugar-coating a turd. WG-style.
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