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Strog_ #1 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 00:46

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I would like to suggest that the Lowe and the T34 no longer be put in tier 10 battles.  Both the IS6 and KV5 are valued for tier 8 and 9 battles, while the Lowe and T34 get thrown into tier 10 battles.  The only reason I can see that this is the case is the Lowe and T34 have higher penetrating guns.  That's it.  I almost never play my Lowe anymore because it is constantly put in tier 10 battles where I am about as useful as a small bush in an open field.  I see no reason why the Lowe and the T34 can't have the same MM qualities as the IS6 and KV5.  That is all.  

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tvanderhart #2 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 00:52

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They're premiums.  Premiums have fatal flaws which make them worse than a fully upgraded tank.  That is their flaw (or one of them).

GeneralMayhem #3 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 00:53

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I could maybe see your argument for the Lowe, but for the T34 tier 10's are exp/cred generators.

Odomir #4 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 00:54

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That might be nice, but the Lowe and T34 both have guns that can be useful in tier X matches, so I don't think it's necessary.  It would be very annoying to face tier Xs with my KV-5, but I've killed my fair share of higher tier tanks with the Lowe

Pwntiff #5 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 00:56

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The T34 will wreck even tier 10s.  It's just a lower tier T30.

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Bad idea.

And I own a T34. This would overflow tier 8 and 9 battles with premium tanks.

MisterPatriot #7 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:01

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T34 is fine.

Lowe however....

paradat #8 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:01

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Hmm maybe the Lowe but The T34 is good against all commers. Pluse has others have mentioned the higer the tier the higer the earnings. The KV5 needs MM the way it is.

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Firemoth #9 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:01

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lowe maybe, but T34 definitely not.

Edited by Firemoth, Dec 20 2012 - 01:02.


wade_gaskins #10 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:17

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Yeah I feel I have wasted my money on the Lowe since every time I hit battle I am near the bottom close to arty and scouts. Yes the gun does okay it tier 10 battles but cant go hull down with out the penning the turret. I also like how the made it a little bigger target for arty to 1 shot now. That was a nice add on.

Kilroy357 #11 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:18

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The T34 has the biggest sting per shot of any tier 8 heavy, premium or not. It doesn't need special matchmaking because there is no target it can't frontally penetrate with decent aim.

jonny_ringo #12 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:19

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I don't know, I've had some huge xp games in tier X matchups in my Lowe....not that I would complain

nicodeimous #13 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:24

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View PostStroganoff, on Dec 20 2012 - 00:46, said:

I would like to suggest that the Lowe and the T34 no longer be put in tier 10 battles.  Both the IS6 and KV5 are valued for tier 8 and 9 battles, while the Lowe and T34 get thrown into tier 10 battles.  The only reason I can see that this is the case is the Lowe and T34 have higher penetrating guns.  That's it.  I almost never play my Lowe anymore because it is constantly put in tier 10 battles where I am about as useful as a small bush in an open field.  I see no reason why the Lowe and the T34 can't have the same MM qualities as the IS6 and KV5.  That is all.  

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Because they both have guns that are better than the IS-6 and Kv-5.  Kv-5's atm are more or less mothballs in the present MM, seeing mostly fights where it's effectiveness is reduced [granted it wasn't ever very effective against its peers].  IS-6 was meant to be cheap tank and it more or less performs like one.  The Lowe and T34 have nasty guns and thus get a wider spread.

upnorth #14 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:33

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its not relly a problem but to counter people saying they have higher pen guns is that all of the gold tanks are balenced. it just that its easyer to sit and snipe the foe and be able to pen them from any angle and range then to come up with a stratagy

GearaDoga #15 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:36

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View Posttvanderhart, on Dec 20 2012 - 00:52, said:

They're premiums.  Premiums have fatal flaws which make them worse than a fully upgraded tank.  That is their flaw (or one of them).

Except for the T34.  It's better than the T32 in pretty much every possible way.  Mind you, that's mostly because the T32 is horrible, but still.

killswitch95 #16 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:48

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View Posttvanderhart, on Dec 20 2012 - 00:52, said:

They're premiums.  Premiums have fatal flaws which make them worse than a fully upgraded tank.  That is their flaw (or one of them).
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5150warpig #17 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:49

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umm i love my t34 being in tier 10 battles. it makes alot more money. the t34 used to be the American tier 9. the 120 was a tier 9 gun. all they did was nerf its fire rate. it can out alpha most tier 10s, and if played right can solo tier 10s.
the lowe can also be some serious dmg to tier 10s if played right. they have the mm weight they do because any decent player can do well in tier 10 battles with them

fritz3d #18 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 01:51

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Don't touch my T34!!!!1!1!11!

Mantisman630 #19 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 02:03

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Mainly because they both have guns comparable to that of tier 9 medium tanks and therefore get regular matchmaking. Same really goes for other tier 8s like the T32 and Tiger II. If the T34 gets out of tier 10 matches, shouldn't the T32, a tank that has a worse gun, do so as well? And what about the Tiger II? It has just a tad bit more frontal armor with a higher speed. In reality, premiums have flaws and should not be extremely powerful in every circumstance...I see a reason to maybe stop the new French tier 8 premium from going into tier 10s but I do not see AS BIG of a reason to lower MM for the Lowe or the T34....especially the T34 since you are basically a T30 with the 120mm and 150 less hp.

Col1kill #20 Posted Dec 20 2012 - 02:10

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the lowe and the T34 both have max standard shell pen over 250. they can fight Tier 10 easy