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Turismo #1 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:38

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OK, is there actually a thing as kill stealing? Because in my eyes you can't steal something you've already claimed and people can't steal something they've claimed if you know what I mean. For example one player I was just with wont mention names, was brawling with a TT26E4 which looked like he had about 100 shots fired at him and finally got him down to 10% and was bouncing shots. So I stepped in with my T34 aimed at the top of his turret and got the kill.

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No.

noupperlobeman #3 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:40

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No such thing.

Certain situations are a grey area, like
Someone with 5 kills going for topgun.

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View PostTurismo, on Jan 03 2013 - 19:38, said:

OK, is there actually a thing as kill stealing?

No

_Para_ #5 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:41

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Meh kill it...1 less gun.

People will bitch and moan at the Internet game that isn't real life.

you can alway troll them with a 'tissue' comment if they spout off about kill stealing.

wingnut357 #6 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:41

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No. Take my kills if it means we win the match.

MedicOnDuty #7 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:42

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Most experienced players will tell you that there is no such thing as killstealing, and I agree with them in this case. From a team perspective (15 players vs 15 players) does it really matter how the guy dies so long as he ends up dead? I can understand how someone could be ticked off if they were one kill away from a top gun and someone killed the last guys they needed, but in the grand scheme of things killstealing isn't a big issue. As the guy above me said:


View Post_79_Para, on Jan 03 2013 - 19:41, said:

Meh kill it...1 less gun.


Nymous #8 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:42

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Sometimes you just have to step in when someone on your team just can't seem to get it done and it's getting old.

viglundr #9 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:42

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As stated no such thing, in a game where spotting is huge the quicker any enemy tank dies the better even if its by a few seconds (A few extra seconds of arty being able to spot someone can be huge)

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You are correct OP no such thing.

As others have mentioned I will sometimes hold back if it will grant a top gun to a team mate and there is no danger to the team winning.

scorp11 #11 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:42

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when you hide like a coward, then come out only to get the final shot in.. ya that would be kill stealing in my book. tho i dont see why WG wont change the options to award the kill to the person that does the most damage.

Edited by scorp11, Jan 03 2013 - 19:43.


50LBHEAD1 #12 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:43

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Kill stealing? No, if someone accuses you of such - clearly they don't understand the concept of this game.

1 Less enemy tank related to one less gun shooting your team. In addition, WoT awards experience based on damaged output, so if you kill a tank that has 1% it really BARELY makes a difference to the person who dropped him from 100-1%

Red_Raven_168 #13 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:43

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kill stealing exists, but not as complained about in the game and forums

it is when a player hides and only shoots for a killing shot

not otherwise contributing to the game or the win


very extremely rare, but it does happen


in all other cases - the killing shot that removes a gun from the enemy team aids green so its not kill stealing

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View PostTurismo, on Jan 03 2013 - 19:38, said:

OK, is there actually a thing as kill stealing? Because in my eyes you can't steal something you've already claimed and people can't steal something they've claimed if you know what I mean. For example one player I was just with wont mention names, was brawling with a TT26E4 which looked like he had about 100 shots fired at him and finally got him down to 10% and was bouncing shots. So I stepped in with my T34 aimed at the top of his turret and got the kill.

I saw a guy a while ago in a match who said he would team-kill any people who stole his kills.  This is an example of a person who exhibits highly territorial and aggressive behaviour (read: a total jackass).

If you do 90% of the damage to a tank, you still get most of the XP and credits for the kill, even if someone else administers the coup de grace.  If someone gets 4 kills but they're all just finishing moves, he won't get a lot of credits or XP for it.

The worst thing about people who get angry at "kill-stealers" is that they are discouraging team play.  A team should focus-fire on enemy tanks to quickly take their guns out of action; this means multiple players firing at one target to take it down, and yes, it will sometimes happen that someone does 80% of the work but someone else gets the kill.  This is not a bad thing; it is in fact far better than individual players picking different targets for themselves and claiming them as personal territorty.

Anyone who whines about "kill-stealers" is not a team player.

mattwong #15 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:44

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View Postscorp11, on Jan 03 2013 - 19:42, said:

when you hide like a coward, then come out only to get the final shot in.. ya that would be kill stealing in my book. tho i dont see why WG wont change the options to award the kill to the person that does the most damage.

The problem with that guy is not the "kill-stealing" part; it's the "hiding like a coward" part.

Daigensui #16 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:45

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Unless one holds one's fire while doing nothing until one is sure of a kill and rush out, there is no such thing as kill stealing.

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View PostKankou, on Jan 03 2013 - 19:45, said:

Unless one holds one's fire while doing nothing until one is sure of a kill and rush out, there is no such thing as kill stealing.

Exactly.  The guy who holds fire to get the kill is an idiot, not because he got the final shot but because he didn't help earlier.

DDemon #18 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:47

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Only thing I dislike is, when you are going toe to toe with an enemy you can easily take, this tank has 10HP left. Then artillery kills it while damaging you also. This is the only thing I would classify as so called 'kill stealing'.

lugzan #19 Posted Jan 03 2013 - 19:49

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no such thing

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View PostDDemon, on Jan 03 2013 - 19:47, said:

Only thing I dislike is, when you are going toe to toe with an enemy you can easily take, this tank has 10HP left. Then artillery kills it while damaging you also. This is the only thing I would classify as so called 'kill stealing'.

I would classify that as "dumb-ass arty driver who does team damage and doesn't understand what Danger Close means".