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Captain_Judo #41 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 03:28

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View PostKimZsaurio, on Jan 15 2013 - 03:21, said:

hello. we have a problem with the challenge
we attended the `Operation Nordwind Challege

the other team did not attend the battle and we should, because we lost? some administrator to resolve the problem please
my team is : guerreros blinados de la muerte
Operation Nordwind Challege

Send me a PM with the details and we'll look into it further.

yunier26 #42 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 03:30

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Hello I need help. My team would battle with another. When we enter to go to battle every 1 minute put us defeat technique until I get to the battle and lost three completely without going into battle. I hope you can help me because this is not fair.
My team is [GBM] Guerreros Blindados de la Muerte.
Operation Nordwind Challege

Edited by yunier26, Jan 15 2013 - 03:37.


ebtr #43 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 03:39

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Hi, our team didn't participate in the tournament because it was technical defeat.

Operation Nordwind Challenge: Operation Nordwind Challenge (battle 3)
Complete: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:05:00 AM
!!! Aldart HM Clan vs. Black Team Vendetta
Technical Defeat
Result: Defeat (0:3)

We had 4 players all with tier 7 tanks. I still can't understand why we got eliminated without actual battle.

yunier26 #44 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 03:44

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Same whith me

KimZsaurio #45 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 03:48

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the admin   Captain_Judo CAN HELP U SEND PM  INTO GAME to Captain_Judo
We also have the same problem

Edited by KimZsaurio, Jan 15 2013 - 03:50.


Captain_Judo #46 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 03:52

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View Postyunier26, on Jan 15 2013 - 03:30, said:

Hello I need help. My team would battle with another. When we enter to go to battle every 1 minute put us defeat technique until I get to the battle and lost three completely without going into battle. I hope you can help me because this is not fair.
My team is [GBM] Guerreros Blindados de la Muerte.
Operation Nordwind Challege

View Postyunier26, on Jan 15 2013 - 03:44, said:

Same whith me

View PostKimZsaurio, on Jan 15 2013 - 03:48, said:

CAPITAN_JUDO CAN HELP U SEND PM  INTO GAME

Something is in the works for your teams  :Smile_honoring:  

View Postebtr, on Jan 15 2013 - 03:39, said:

Hi, our team didn't participate in the tournament because it was technical defeat.
Operation Nordwind Challenge: Operation Nordwind Challenge (battle 3)
Complete: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:05:00 AM
!!! Aldart HM Clan vs. Black Team Vendetta
Technical Defeat
Result: Defeat (0:3)
We had 4 players all with tier 7 tanks. I still can't understand why we got eliminated without actual battle.

Ebtr, send me a PM so we can get to the bottom of this.

DRAGONFIRE_Sr #47 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 06:56

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From the looks of the ladder, there will be 8 rounds total. On the turny page there are only 4 days listed. Will we be running more than one round per night, or will we be fighting this over the course of 16 days?

ohsi #48 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 07:50

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I have a silly question... but what happens with the battles that were scheduled for yesterday, and are not finished? (at least they appear in grey). Like this:

http://i1092.photobu...zpsa07d6d56.jpg

I'm not referring to the team, just to the fact that many teams seem to have no opposite team at all (it appears like a "---"), and they are in grey. Just that: it's my first tournament.

Thanks in advance.

Revelat0r #49 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 08:28

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View Postohsi, on Jan 15 2013 - 07:50, said:

I have a silly question... but what happens with the battles that were scheduled for yesterday, and are not finished? (at least they appear in grey). Like this:

http://i1092.photobu...zpsa07d6d56.jpg

I'm not referring to the team, just to the fact that many teams seem to have no opposite team at all (it appears like a "---"), and they are in grey. Just that: it's my first tournament.

Thanks in advance.
That is a bye week for those teams, they don't have to play, and they advance automatically.

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View PostRevelat0r, on Jan 15 2013 - 08:28, said:

That is a bye week for those teams, they don't have to play, and they advance automatically.

I see, and why do they advance automatically? They earned that right by winning previous tournaments or something?

Thanks for the answer.

DRAGONFIRE_Sr #51 Posted Jan 15 2013 - 14:42

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The bye rounds are assigned randomly and the teams that get them have to be moved manually to the next bracket.

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View PostDRAGONFIRE_Sr, on Jan 15 2013 - 14:42, said:

The bye rounds are assigned randomly and the teams that get them have to be moved manually to the next bracket.

It is clear now. Thanks.

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Operation: Opponent camps with Alpha strikes from an invulnerable/invisible position.

If our opposition hadn't messed up a few times we wouldn't have had a chance to win, but then again neither would they. We can't identify hard camp locations without risking loss for what will likely be a weak reward.

The team that pushes here is risking everything with a really, really, really low chance of success should the other team have a good response plan.

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View Postnagatron, on Jan 17 2013 - 03:47, said:

Operation: Opponent camps with Alpha strikes from an invulnerable/invisible position.

If our opposition hadn't messed up a few times we wouldn't have had a chance to win, but then again neither would they. We can't identify hard camp locations without risking loss for what will likely be a weak reward.

The team that pushes here is risking everything with a really, really, really low chance of success should the other team have a good response plan.

yeah this was more boring than a high tier game on serene coast

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its always nice to enjoy some marshmallows around a campfire this time of the year.

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I'm assuming your teams won. What I'd like to know is, how many battles ended in a draw?

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View PostCaptain_Judo, on Jan 17 2013 - 04:51, said:

I'm assuming your teams won. What I'd like to know is, how many battles ended in a draw?
all victories or losses in our battles was because both sides coincidentally decided to mass on one of the 3 paths.
The only reason in my guess, is that we are only human, with RL responsibilities, and can't sit around a campfire for 6 hours straight on a week day.
Can't wait for friday though, im totally ready to pull an all nighter.
i think we played 8, with 4 of them being draws.

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Intentional draws: If a team captain suspects intentional draws to prevent both teams from advancing, a dispute may be filed
Round must last at least 8 battles before this particular dispute will be considered

8 x 15 = 120 minutes under perfect circumstances and IIRC if a team pushes out at the last minute, with no chance of losing, the match won't be counted as an intentional draw. The amount of time this will potentially waste is really frustrating.

The rules as they are basically mean that someone has to push and volunteer to die or else camp and waste huge amounts of everyone's time. Meanwhile, if we push, we're going to lose some battles due to hard camps which will drag down our ELO rating compared to what it could be. This likely isn't going to make Fulcrum waste our time camping, but I guarantee you that some teams will be extremely hesitant to risk harming their ELO and I really don't blame them for that.

Edit: Just also noticed the "to prevent both teams from advancing" part of that. I highly doubt any team deliberately tries to draw themselves out as well; they're just preventing a loss and hoping the other team gives them a win. A clear ruling for this tournament specifically is likely going to be necessary or heads will explode.

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You guys think you had it bad? VS played for 2 hours and 32 mins tonight(11 matches). The team we fought only moved from the spawn area 3 times(8 camped matches), now I love my tournies but that long in round 2 already and only leaving the spawn 3 times? I mean come on thats ridiculous man. Thank god I didn't get in the ELO for this one would've been a terrible one to start off on.

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2 hours before we got bored and died attacking. Best thing is we had them 2-0 before they started camping.

Oh, well, I'll read the rules more carefully next time. Forgot about the intentional draw thing...

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