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LoweGear #1 Posted Jan 12 2013 - 13:32

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So this is not a discussion about the T28 Prototype's performance in game. Ever since Overlord's admission way in 2011 that the T28 Prototype was "90% our invention", it really nags at me now. While this game does use a lot of tanks that never made it into production, at least many of them have basis in conceptual drawings like the T-150 or the Jagdpanzer E-100, and the existence of many of these designs are hinted at in their real-life development histories. The T28 Prototype however doesn't have these, and its design is truly a Wargaming original invention.

Hence, a couple of questions come to my mind regarding this:

- How did the concept of the "T28 Prototype" come about? And
- How did they come to the conclusion of creating a turreted version of the T28 as its "prototype"?

I realize that only the devs can answer this question in any meaningful capacity, but I'll ask the question here just in case.

Edited by LoweGear, Jan 12 2013 - 13:33.


PTwr #2 Posted Jan 12 2013 - 13:45

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View PostLoweGear, on Jan 12 2013 - 13:32, said:

- How did the concept of the "T28 Prototype" come about?
They lacked something to put as tier 8 in turreted line. So they cloned machine from other branch, hence T28 as a core of design I guess.
Turret was added to fit into concept of turreted TD line, then they got wild with creativity and T28 prot came to existence.

View PostLoweGear, on Jan 12 2013 - 13:32, said:

- How did they come to the conclusion of creating a turreted version of the T28 as its "prototype"?
To fit plot holes. By saying it is prototype they could cut off logical problems with this design.

That, or they just drank to much.

Lord_Vale3 #3 Posted Jan 12 2013 - 17:38

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Funny thing is, with american tanks, the 'T' in the name already signifies a 'prototype'. For example, the T1 heavy was a prototype of the M6 ("M" tanks were actually fielded). So T28 Prototype is actually redundant. Its like saying its a prototype of a prototype.

Starne #4 Posted Jan 12 2013 - 19:16

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Somewhere, there's a piece of conceptual artwork from the period depicting a a vehicle not all that dissimilar to the T28P we have in the game. It's unlikely that it ever got any further than a concept drawing, but WG apparently took that concept piece and ran with it.

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UncleDaddy #5 Posted Jan 12 2013 - 19:38

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Even the t28 is a WG invention because the real t28 is the same thing as a t95, they just renamed it in 1945.  Its weird but hey they had to do something to fill those 2 tier 8 spots.

LoweGear #6 Posted Jan 12 2013 - 22:43

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View PostStarne, on Jan 12 2013 - 19:16, said:

Somewhere, there's a piece of conceptual artwork from the period depicting a a vehicle not all that dissimilar to the T28P with have the game. It's unlikely that it ever got any further than a concept drawing, but WG apparently took that concept piece and ran with it.

For some reason, your post jolted a memory I have of reading a particular book. Then I remembered that said book was saved in pdf format in my HDD, and I've used it for prior discussions on heavy tanks before. So I checked the book, and there it was:

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The book is RP Hunnicutt's "Firepower - A History Of The American Heavy Tank", and it's the first book that came to mind since the WG devs seem to use it as a reference (for instance, it's one of the few publications that has information on the T110 project). And the similarity between that "Assault Tank" in that image and the T28 Prototype didn't hit me until your post.

Starne #7 Posted Jan 13 2013 - 18:12

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That's exactly the drawing I was talking about. As you can see, the vehicle depicted there is almost certainly the inspiration for the T28P we have in the game. the major differences being the concept has a larger UFP, smaller LFP, and and a more squat turret. Though the turret shape could be more of an artifact of the art than anything else.





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