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Sweezie #1 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:04

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What will you do when you can't fight off 4 Obj. 268's, 3 JagdPz-e100's &2 Foch's?

Obviously you won't be able to rely on Artillery anymore when 8.3 rolls in, so what will you do?

I can see the posts coming in already, people will complain about anything, when they can't kill what I mentioned above or any 6 TD's per side, they will come to the forum and complain about "TOO MUCH TANK DESTROYERS PER SIDE!!!! NERF NEEDED!!!"

But hey, until then, have fun getting one shotted.   

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SULOMON #2 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:05

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I thought there were to many light tanks.

50LBHEAD1 #3 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:05

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View PostSweezie, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:04, said:

What will you do when you can't fight off 4 Obj. 268's, 3 JagdPz-e100's & 2 Foch's?

Obviously you won't be able to rely on Artillery anymore when 8.3 rolls in, so what will you do?

I can see the posts coming in already, people will complain about anything, when they can't kill what I mentioned above or any 6 TD's per side, they will come to the forum and complain about "TOO MUCH TANK DESTROYERS PER SIDE!!!! NERF NEEDED!!!"

But hey, until then, have fun getting one shotted.   

~ Sweezie

Sweezie!!!

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Tedster59 #4 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:06

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so my JPE100 will be feared now?

:)

Haplo013 #5 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:06

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We are slowly working down that slippery slope where the only tanks that can be played because the rest have been nerfed so bad are the Heavys.

Skraeling #6 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:08

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View PostSweezie, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:04, said:

Obviously you won't be able to rely on Artillery anymore when 8.3 rolls in, so what will you do?


load credit gold ammo and laugh.

flank them

track then flank them

any of the other dozens of ways to beat a td?

Edited by Skraeling, Jan 16 2013 - 19:09.


WarStore #7 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:09

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You mean the Jpz-E100, which I fought so hard to get, will finally be useful? I don't believe it.

Those creepy T-62, Chaffes, Batchats scare the shit out of me..... What will I do without arty?  :Smile_ohmy:

Probably have some fun for a change.

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my f155 got one shotted on testserver just as hard as it does on the real server

Leadpiper #9 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:09

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I seriously doubt that good artie players will stop killing albeit at a slower pace for a while, it may discorage the newbies (yes not the noobs) from using artillery but then they did not make a big impact to begin with, it will become a specialist niche imo.

Kaputt #10 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:13

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The splash damage radius is the only thing that has been nerfed, damage remains the same; arty just needs to be more accurate.

Sweezie #11 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:14

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View PostWarStore, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:09, said:

You mean the Jpz-E100, which I fought so hard to get, will finally be useful?

Every Tier 8 Artillery player fought just as hard as anybody who owns and grinded their way up to any high tier vehicle, and guess what? we're are the ones that get F'd in the butt with a big F' YOU! written on our foreheads.

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paradat #12 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:15

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The Arty nerf was not bad enough to keep them from killing TD's

WarStore #13 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:16

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View PostSweezie, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:14, said:

Every Tier 8 Artillery player fought just as hard as anybody who owns and grinded their way up to any high tier vehicle, and guess what? we're are the ones that get F'd in the butt with a big F' YOU! written on our foreheads.

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No, they didn't. It is a lot easier to get a tier 8 SPG than a tier 10 TD.

I would gladly lose my two tier 8 SPGs if it means making the game more enjoyable.

Anthronole #14 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:18

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TD's generally don't sit at the back of the map and one-shot enemy tanks with impunity. But nice try though. I give you an 8.5 for effort but only a 2.0 for factual basis of argument.

PTwr #15 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:24

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View PostSULOMON, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:05, said:

I thought there were to many light tanks.
It's all fine, unless one team gets only T-50-2's while other side gets legion of VK 2801's.

Valkner #16 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:25

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View PostSweezie, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:14, said:

Every Tier 8 Artillery player fought just as hard as anybody who owns and grinded their way up to any high tier vehicle, and guess what? we're are the ones that get F'd in the butt with a big F' YOU! written on our foreheads.

~ Sweezie

Are you retarded or just highly misinformed?  None of the arty received any damage nerfs and the splash nerfs/buffs are insignificant.  Yes arty has less HP now, but they got ground resistance buffs which makes you more mobile to survive better.  If you played on the test server nothing has changed except that you will usually die in 1 hit rather then 2 (IMO the mobility buffs offset this by far).

ShockedQuartz #17 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:26

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View PostWarStore, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:16, said:

No, they didn't. It is a lot easier to get a tier 8 SPG than a tier 10 TD.

I would gladly lose my two tier 8 SPGs if it means making the game more enjoyable.


Isn't it really easy to get either now a days? Look at all the triple digit efficiency players that have 10's or tier 8 arty now. It just takes more time for them. LOL A year ago you could count on most 10's to be decent at least. The n00bs, through perseverance and dedication have played through their fail so all of us in the top tiers can enjoy their prowess.

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View PostSkraeling, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:08, said:

any of the other dozens of ways to beat a td?
Hmm... try to flank a Stug and die trying?
Hmm... try to find Hetzer and die without detecting that ninja?
Hmm... attack TD from behind only to die horribly due to sudden appearance of turret?
Hmm... flank that Jagd100 and get killed by its team mates?
Hmm... side hug that Object and get spanked by artillery friendly fire?

Torgamous #19 Posted Jan 16 2013 - 19:28

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Summing up arty in one word?

SLOW!

With exceptions of some French arty (and they have other limitations), arty: grinds up the tiers and module research slow, moves slow, turns slow, reloads slow, aims slow, not to mention being inaccurate compared to most other tanks.  Yes, the guns do damage if they hit, but there is a lot to get that hit.  If arty and blast radius was so OP, you would see Bombardier medals going out in every other match.  Not seeing that.

The only thing that needs to be corrected about arty is the matchmaker throwing more than 6 into a battle.  Even arty players bawk at mass "arty parties".

And yes, TDs will be new "hot" thing without decent arty.  This will become "Rock, Paper, Scissors" without the threat of a rock...

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View PostSweezie, on Jan 16 2013 - 19:14, said:

Every Tier 8 Artillery player fought just as hard as anybody who owns and grinded their way up to any high tier vehicle, and guess what? we're are the ones that get F'd in the butt with a big F' YOU! written on our foreheads.

~ Sweezie

And it's about time!!!!!!

Nice to see arty players, (Even Teribad ones) raging about the nerfs, especially when most are rejoicing. The overpopulation of arty at end tier has been ruining gameplay since 7.5, and honestly, do you think you will get 1 oz of sympathy from the masses?

It is what it is. My arty will be sold, I advise you to do the same, or just deal with it. That's the only answer at this point.