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Sidescraping, or "You keep using that word..."


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Fishrokk #1 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 20:26

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I debated posting this in the Newcomer's section, as I am asking a question here - not providing a guide.  However, I think the answer will provide a guide for me and other players that may be afraid to show their ignorance by asking this simple question.

I have been seeing the term 'sidescraping' thrown around the forums quite often.  I do not understand what this means in terms of WoT.  Can someone please explain?

Bonus points for providing examples, and guides for when and how to use it most effectively.

(Note: OP does not actually have any points, bonus or otherwise, to distribute.)

Herr_Klug #2 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 20:33

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Check here: http://wotarmory.fil...jpg?w=549&h=321

weesh #3 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 20:39

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Good link klug, but note that if you are a little further back from the cover, you can pull forward to completely conceal your tank while reloading.  Then just back out again at the same angle.

BattlecryGWJ #4 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 20:41

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Herr_Klug hit on one definition, though I believe "Sidescraping" is also used for describing another maneuver.

If you're not familiar with the term "facehugging", you should be:
http://forum.worldof...f-face-hugging/

Essentially you're nose to nose with another tank and work to stay that way, sometimes working this similar tactic but maintaining your tanks side to side is sometimes referred to as sidescraping.

Zaratank #5 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 20:42

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Side Scraping is when (IIRC) you hide your tanks front behind a building and expose the largesse of your rear and also peek your turret out. Your rear hull is at such an angle that it is virtually impossible to receive damage but you can keep firing.

Fishrokk #6 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 20:44

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Very good link, Klug - thank you very much!

paradat #7 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 20:44

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Herr_Klug has it. That is sidescraping. That has always been sidescraping.

The VK4502 B is amazing at this. Oddly the Tog 2 is allso very good at this but you do it backwards lol. I assume the Brit tier 10 heavy will be good but I do not have it yet.

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Swizsedtoast #8 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 20:45

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These images explain it very well:
http://goodgamehunte...ssic-corner.png
http://goodgamehunte...aper-corner.png

I have a recent replay in which I demonstrate some sidescraping, it ain't the best example but it should provide an idea. Download it, exit WOT (if open), and double click the replay.
LMB to fix/unfix the camera, space to pause. You can see how effective it is. Also, look at the marks on my tank. The long scratches are shots that "scraped" my sides.
http://mwreplays.com...y/KRS77JXCHX55/ <- Also provides battle stats, note the hits received

Basically, the concept is that by hiding your front behind cover and only exposing a steeply angled side, your increase your armor effectiveness by many times. Your tracks also add additional armor. Generally, you want to completely hide your front while reloading, reverse, fire a shot, and then drive forward back into cover. Tanks with a rear-mounted turret such as the VK 4502, Maus, and FV215b are exceptional at sidescraping. The KV-5 should sidesrape as often as possible to protect it's major weakspot in it's front. If you like, I can do a practice game with you to demonstrate it better.

Edited by Swizsedtoast, Jan 23 2013 - 20:59.


SULOMON #9 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 21:01

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I practice this maneuver extensively in my Pz B2.

Fishrokk #10 Posted Jan 23 2013 - 21:26

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Offer much appreciated, Swizsedtoast!  I think I can put the tactic into play with the graphic links provided.  Like anything it will take practice - but now I see what I *should* have been doing every time I drive a heavy to the 1 line in Ensk.  But it's not an epic facepalm, just a regular one.