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Iskveda #1 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:32

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Given everything I read on the forums, apparently the way I approach techtree progression is more than marginally unorthodox. Most people say to run one faction of tanks, or one classification (Light, Med, Heavy, TD, SPG) at a time. I, however, have run nearly all lines simultaneously. So, currently I only have one true Tier 7 tank, the AMX 13 75. However, nearly all of my techtrees are at Tier 6 or are on the verge of it. Currently the only thing holding me back is Credits, as I just dropped 1.3 million for the aforementioned AMX.

The only exception to this has been artillery, which I am heavily considering picking up in order ti break up the credit-grind and get tech progression at the same time. However, I am becoming more aware that progressing in this manner is becoming increasingly time-consuming and costly...

I don't, however, know if I want to stop playing in this way. Especially considering that I have this insatiable need to Elite every tank I come across, regardless of whether any of its modules carry over...

So, I am merely doing what many on this forum say people in my win-rate range do not do: Asking for advice.

Ganegrei #2 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:36

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I would say do not stary arty.  They have been nerfed recently and will probably be nerfed again.  Nothing wrong with running a bunch of different lines.  variety is the spice of life.  Also, high tier games are no fun.  I find that tier 6 is the most fun I can have in a tank.

Babajista #3 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:38

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You say you enjoying the game your way?

Burn him!!!

And seriously now..
Do what ever feels good for you, it's a game..
There is no certain way for progress..
I feel sometimes that if I were playing only tier 1-4
I would have enjoyed the game even more.

_ErwinRommel__ #4 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:38

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Ok chose the 1 heavy and td line from 2 countries and focus on that like the tiger p can got the td line skip 2 tds but can also research down to tiger to get king tiger and go to vk450p so study the tech tree often

ElvenLord #5 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:39

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I do the same thing and have several lines on the verge of hitting tier 8.... What I do to reduce the credit of doing it this way is to only buy the tanks when they go on 50% off sale, with the exception of 8+ which I buy as soon as I have the credits....

BE_Beasts_of_the_East #6 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:39

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For a free player, the tier 5 and 6 tanks are the tanks that make most credits. So I would definitely keep some of those tanks you really like. Progressing up multiple lines at the same time is no problem, you only need to drive your credit making tanks a lot more in order to progress.

Fenriswaffles #7 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:42

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Most of the time I never can get the credits to get a high tier unless I REALLY want it, otherwise I end up buying other tanks then grinding up them.

Plus I'd kind of prefer playing all classes/countries more or less equally, it gives you a feel for the skills needed for each class as well as making you go up the line slower so you're skilled once you reach high tiers. I just can't stand when people at T8 and T9 have less than 2k battles that just megagrinded one line.

I say you're fairly sane and reasonable, but that's just me.

PanzerXO #8 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:44

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View PostIskveda, on Jan 24 2013 - 16:32, said:

Given everything I read on the forums, apparently the way I approach techtree progression is more than marginally unorthodox. Most people say to run one faction of tanks, or one classification (Light, Med, Heavy, TD, SPG) at a time. I, however, have run nearly all lines simultaneously. So, currently I only have one true Tier 7 tank, the AMX 13 75. However, nearly all of my techtrees are at Tier 6 or are on the verge of it. Currently the only thing holding me back is Credits, as I just dropped 1.3 million for the aforementioned AMX.

The only exception to this has been artillery, which I am heavily considering picking up in order ti break up the credit-grind and get tech progression at the same time. However, I am becoming more aware that progressing in this manner is becoming increasingly time-consuming and costly...

I don't, however, know if I want to stop playing in this way. Especially considering that I have this insatiable need to Elite every tank I come across, regardless of whether any of its modules carry over...

So, I am merely doing what many on this forum say people in my win-rate range do not do: Asking for advice.

One good reason to play arty is to see everywhere arty can see, and where it cannot.  Playing arty can only improve your knowledge of the game.

That said, after a while, arty becomes boring or frustrating.

The biggest problem with arty is that once you become a good player, your ability to lead a team to victory is severely hampered.  In arty, as in no other tank, you are truly dependent upon the skill of other players.  Yes, you can help them - but if they will not spot for you, you will not have targets.  Further, you cannot go someplace to shore up a failing side or exploit a weakness.

So, other than that - if you are enjoying the tanks you are grinding - keep at it.

When you can, focus on your win-rate and eff.  You will get more credits and enjoy the game more.

M477145_N1l550n #9 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:46

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OP, I do the same thing you do, and I'm about where you are. I've Elited out all American T5 tanks, unlocked all non-Chinese non-SPG T5s, and my highest are a trio of German tanks: the VK3K2DB, the Panther, and the Henschel Tiger.

It's a slog, sure, but more tanks is never a bad thing. Just make sure that the tanks you do drive, you have fun in.

Dead_Baron #10 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:47

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I've done precisely the same levelling as yourself, I have one tier 6 or so left - the Jackson, most tanks at tier 7 and the IS3 unlocked but not bought as I have 5m silver and don't want to use half of it straight off.

I really think it affects win rate because you play so much lower tier games where one player can dominate and you're constantly in tanks that are being levelled up in terms of equipment so you're not playing elite tanks often.

However, at some stage you're going to have to specialise.  Buying every tier 8 tank would cost an awful lot - 73m+ at a rough estimate which is more or less undoable, much more than getting the xp for them that's for sure!

I have decided to concentrate on getting the batchat even though I hate the line and the Russian heavies, if there's some good 8s or 9s then I'll go for them but I think 3 top tier tanks is probably enough, especially if you add arty on top of that, I have all four nations with arty at tier 5 with the GWPanther unlocked but not bought yet.

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If credits are an issue, then be sure to keep several tier 5's as they have the best credit coefficients for farming. Tier 6's can also be quite good as well. As for making each tank elite and enjoying the game, that is far better than trying to push for tier 10's. Starting at tier 7, your costs will start to significantly increase and at tier 10, the average repair is 25K-30K and shells are over 1K each. When you do reach them, be sure to keep those tier 5's for credit farming as you will need them!

btw - I also ran several lines at the same time and had a great deal of fun doing so.

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In all honesty, you will always be behind the credit curve when doing it that way. All of your tanks will (ok, mostly) tier up at the same time, you will only make back half of what each was bought for, while the next tier in the tree will cost double the original price you paid for the one before. Try this, and see how it works out: 1. pick a line to take to the end tier, 2. pick a second line around tier 5 that makes credits more reliably than the rest, but also you will extend to tier 10 at some point, 3. pick a third tank same as step 2. If you do it this way, you progress to end tier on one much faster and more economically than "all at once". You play your targeted tank if it is out of battle, take the second tank when the first choice is locked out, and if both 1 and 2 are locked out, you play the third. You shouldn't ever need a 4th tank because the other three are all locked (if you have that, you are missing fundamentals of the game and need to evaluate your gameplay).

BE_bionog #13 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:50

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I did somewhat of the same thing. Worked up the german line meds, td's and heavies to tier 7. Didn't see much enjoyment in the next tiers, so I sold them all and kept 1 tier 6 tank for credit making. Now I drive the German arty, and the russian heavy line (IS). Those are enjoyable to me, and that I think is the most important.

alexsyl007 #14 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:50

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I do the same too, I am currently grinding the French heavy line, maybe french TD's sometime later, gonna start the soviet med and TD line (from middle, I left off a while ago), started the German med line again last week and bought a M7 american arty yesterday. Playing several lines/class of tanks is no problem as long as you adjust your playstyle accordingly. If you can't then stick to one. As for me, I don't find this a problem at all.

pyantoryng #15 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:51

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Over my 11k battles I could've got multiple Tier 10 tanks, but I've gotten only one researched and halfway toward another one. But I've got various trees researched up to a varying degree.

So, just go the way you believe, but keep a strong foundation in your fundings (at least one money tank and some reserve credits) and you should be fine.

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With over a dozen tanks in my garage ranging from Tier 1 to Tier 10, there is no right or wrong way to play the game, insofar as developing your garage.  As long as your having fun, that is the real trick.  Some here make it work, and in that regard, it is a chore--not fun, not at all.  Such attitudes garner resentment in public matches, even illicit flaming because others are not playing the same.  However, if and when you join a clan, you'd be surprised how often these groups play just for fun with low tiers, mid tiers, and end tiers.

My advice is find your niche, polish your own game, and continue to enjoy the journey to those tiers you'd like eventually have.  But along the way, play the tank as if it is your best tank, your only tank, and you may find that regardless the advice in these forums, you'll have a long and prosperous run in World of Tanks.

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Wazer_Wifle #17 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:51

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You basicly just explained me. Except my tier 7 is T20 I have m6 researched. I have a Ram 2 and KV-1 and I am tier 5 on the German TD line and about tier 4 or 5 (panzer 3) on German medium line.

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View PostM477145_N1l550n, on Jan 24 2013 - 16:46, said:

VK3K2DB

Lol, I was like 'WTH is this tank?', nvm....

SebastianCole #19 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 16:54

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I tend to work 7-8 lines at the same time. Running each one until I get the double, then moving on to one of the others. There have been several lines I have abandoned at various levels (just never got around to buying the next tank). That is why I have over 9k battles and only one tier 9 to show for it (I have 2 others researched but not bought, and a third I should finish in a few days).

Playing lots of different tanks gives you a better feel for what each one can and can't do. Which is helpful when you face them on the field. Unfortunately switching between tanks as much as I do, means you sometimes forget which tank you are playing, and try to do things that the tank was not meant to do.

Iskveda #20 Posted Jan 24 2013 - 17:00

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Hm hmmm. I think I am definitely going to have to pay more attention to Techtree events like ElvenLord mentioned. Hopefully the ARL 44 goes on sale in that regard sometime soon. XD

And I am somewhat surprised at the amount of people who play this way. Generally the threads I see say you ought to focus on getting Clan Wars tanks as soon as humanly possible. O_o

Luckily, I have access to nearly all Tier 5's(excluding Scouts, SPGs,  and China), as well as a few Premium tanks, four of which are Tier 5... But, friends of mine keep telling me that, to keep up with all my costs, I should look into a Tier 8 Premium.

I just don't know that I want to drop that much dosh on a single tank right now... Nor do I know that I could even stand a chance against the advanced skill and tactical levels there. D:

Edit: Also, please pardon the strange mish-mash of slang. I have a lot of British, Canadian, and Australian friends, so their slang finds its way into my vernacular sometimes. Hence the Americanism of "Ought" in the same post as the British slang for money, "dosh". O_o