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lightball20 #61 Posted Jun 24 2013 - 18:27

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From the look of your win rate in that tank it seems like its not a bad tank. If it was bad you wouldn't have a 57% win rate in it. Please try again.

ovan20 #62 Posted Jul 01 2013 - 06:08

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View Postanhtheky, on Jan 26 2013 - 01:50, said:

this tank is suck ! a tier 7 can pen my front amor with AP ! and it doesnt matter how i angle my tank it still get hit like wearing paper ! this is ridiculous !

How did you pass trough the 110?

You dont angle chinese tanks.

Tupinambis #63 Posted Jul 01 2013 - 21:11

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The 113 has a garbage LFP, weak side armor and a turret mounted too far back to angle effectively.

It looks less like a heavy tank and more like a hideously over-armored medium [the UFP has 320mm LOS thickness].

I'm actually looking forward to trying this tank, I'm 120k XP away from it now.

XxFinal_RestxX #64 Posted Jul 30 2013 - 07:49

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lol this is getting interesting because peoples that saying 113 is good NOT EVEN HAS THE FREAKING TANK !! oh and my 57% win IM GOOD LIKE THAT !! 113 is not my most playing tank i have T57 50B E5 FV215B .... in other acc !! anyway what i am saying is yall need to freaking get a tank before talk or clown me about 113 !

xrt0 #65 Posted Jul 31 2013 - 07:52

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Saw a few 113's tonight in West while playing on my WZ 111 model 1-4. Sadly haven't seen anyone really do well with them, the players who used them seem to die pretty early on. At best, at the end of one game, I noticed one of the 113's did under 1.4k damage, other games seems like those were regulated to be more or less scouting heavy tanks or whatnot. I don't want to say they're playing it wrong, but it seemed that way.

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View Postxrt0, on Jul 31 2013 - 07:52, said:

Saw a few 113's tonight in West while playing on my WZ 111 model 1-4. Sadly haven't seen anyone really do well with them, the players who used them seem to die pretty early on. At best, at the end of one game, I noticed one of the 113's did under 1.4k damage, other games seems like those were regulated to be more or less scouting heavy tanks or whatnot. I don't want to say they're playing it wrong, but it seemed that way.

The issue with the WZ-113 is that you have to expose the LFP to get an accurate shot due to the -4 depression on this gun. If it was somewhere in the area of -6/-7 it would allow WZ-113 players more flexibility and less vulnerability/exposure.

Tupinambis #67 Posted Aug 04 2013 - 05:19

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View Postxrt0, on Jul 31 2013 - 07:52, said:

Saw a few 113's tonight in West while playing on my WZ 111 model 1-4. Sadly haven't seen anyone really do well with them, the players who used them seem to die pretty early on. At best, at the end of one game, I noticed one of the 113's did under 1.4k damage, other games seems like those were regulated to be more or less scouting heavy tanks or whatnot. I don't want to say they're playing it wrong, but it seemed that way.

lol that might have been me you saw.

I'm still getting used to the thing. Slowly I'm learning that this vehicle doesn't perform well in CQC at all.

SOJO #68 Posted Aug 14 2013 - 13:25

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Play this tank (113) for a day, seek a psychologist, you will be diagnosed with PTSD and placed on an anti-depressant. It’s horrible!

Edited by Sojo, Aug 14 2013 - 13:26.


DrStrangeWolf #69 Posted Aug 14 2013 - 20:15

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For the love of god people plz stop feeding this forum post for this dumb player to make excuses for being very bad and whiny as hell. 113 is a slow firing medium classified as a heavy and has mobility to be with medium tank attacks please someone get a mod to shut this thread cause this is pathetic like the excuse filled idiot who is continuing to bash a tank as bad instead of finding different tactics. My clan used single one fine in CW as a augmentation to cliff battles so please stop using this thread for pity and tear.
Another thing test servers and testing information is scatter all over the web so next time going to be a exp speed unlocker who gets butt hurt over spending money first before research should be shot. You my friend deserve to be hung by the balls and hit with paddles.
Would you kindly shut the hell up! Close the thread!
Btw report this bastard and his thread.

Edited by DrStrangeWolf, Aug 14 2013 - 20:17.


Abnormalmind #70 Posted Aug 14 2013 - 20:18

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View PostDrStrangeWolf, on Aug 14 2013 - 20:15, said:

For the love of god people plz stop feeding this forum post for this dumb player to make excuses for being very bad and whiny as hell. 113 is a slow firing medium classified as a heavy and has mobility to be with medium tank attacks please someone get a mod to shut this thread cause this is pathetic like the excuse filled idiot who is continuing to bash a tank as bad instead of finding different tactics. My clan used single one fine in CW as a augmentation to cliff battles so please stop using this thread for pity and tear.
Another thing test servers and testing information is scatter all over the web so next time going to be a exp speed unlocker who gets butt hurt over spending money first before research should be shot. You my friend deserve to be hung by the balls and hit with paddles.
Would you kindly shut the hell up! Close the thread!
Btw report this bastard and his thread.

You seem to know a lot about a tank you've never played...

Maybe you should leave the discussion to people who actually play the tank, rather than chiming into a conversion about a tank you've only seen on the battlefield and/or read on the wiki.

DrStrangeWolf #71 Posted Aug 14 2013 - 20:29

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no played with a clanner who has this but like the bloody thread to close since the guy who started it is a idiot with money

bob34236 #72 Posted Aug 18 2013 - 00:58

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Please be quiet ,, if your so inclined to believe this tank is bad , Im willng to tutor you both in the ways of this tank and grammer , many places on maps I know of where this tank is pretty much impenetrable.

MilesCadre #73 Posted Aug 24 2013 - 16:02

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Welp, I guess I shouldnt say much being in only 82 games with a 55% win rate, but I'll drop off my 2 cents.
113 has a great advantage and strong point that others fail to realize; Its a Jack of All Trades, but a Master of None.
The cool thing about a 113 is it is fast enough to keep up with most medium wolfpacks, brining extra firepower and armor/HP to the fight.
Its strong enough to assist on the front line and hold a area.
Its accurate enough to support the second line
It also, unless youre a total moron, has acceptable camo and exceptional spotting characteristics, allowing it to actively assist TDs and Defend flags.
Will it EXCEL in any of these areas? Nope. A E100 will definitel out tank and dpm you. a T110E5 probably is a much more logical and acceptable choice against a 113. FV215b will fire faster, and a maus of course has much much more armor. Dont get me started with autoloaders.
However, a 215b isnt necissarily ideal for tanking or pushing the front line. And a maus, albeit hilarious, isnt ideal for supporting medium wolfpacks.
You sacrifice these strong points to make your tank more versitile in the 113. Thats its true strength, and the root to why people have a hard time palying it.
in my honest opinion; 113 requires the most skill to successfully play, due to the fact that it has no true role, aside form being the Jack of All Trades.
Not a bad way to come back to these forums, but definitely gonna don a genuine flame-war proof suit and watch the fireworks.
EDIT: Back in 8.5/6 (I believe), 113 had 400mm average pen on its HEAT rounds. This is what really made 113 shine and gave it that edge. Now its around 300 or so, which is still exceptional, but solidifies my above statement. also, blame my typing teacher back in the 8th grade for all the double spacing.

Edited by MilesCadre, Aug 24 2013 - 16:06.


Dougthehead #74 Posted Sep 11 2013 - 14:35

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i got this tank  3 or 4 days ago, have only played maybe 15 games or so. So far i haven't played a good game in it, i thin k i broke 3k damage twice the rest were miserable. I won games becuase of my team, i was more of a hinderance than a help. It seems to me that u have to use gold to make it work. I hope that going forward i can get used to its playstyle but for now i really don't like the tank at all. Sure u can get some bounces but few and the gun mounts on top of turret are obvious and easily hit weakspots and if u are on uneven ground it can effect ur ufp enough to where u can be penned easily. Normally when people say "o the tank is great it just has a high skill cap" is another way of saying the tank is a pos in all but the hands of a few. I regret selling the wz111 1-4 which i found to be an excellent tank.

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View Postbob34236, on Aug 18 2013 - 00:58, said:

Please be quiet ,, if your so inclined to believe this tank is bad , Im willng to tutor you both in the ways of this tank and grammer , many places on maps I know of where this tank is pretty much impenetrable.

Are you trying to say, If a fancy Restaurant prepares me a Shit Sandwich, you as the "maitre d" could convince me that it taste good?

Did I spell "maitre d" correctly?

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Okay thier has been alot of hate coming toward the 113. And i have to say the hate comes from ones that dont know how to use this tank. I heard talk about the about the you have to playstyle this tank, in which to a point i agree to this tank, So it has a steep learning curve. Its class is heavy but it weights only 48 tons. So even with some meds you have a tuff time pushing them back in a face hug base on the way your angled; with heavies just get out of their way. As for the rest of the weakness of the 113 you can refer back to the other parts of this post. I wanted to put forth the greatness of this tank, first and formost that the 113 is the second fastest t10 heavie in the game. Which means going a avg of 40 so base on perks on grass you can keep up with most meds and be only a few secounds behind the fastest med. This fact provides the meds get a good boost in DPR also the armor of the 113.
The armor of this tank should not be underestmated, yes its LFP is rather easy to hit if you are not using the map, which goes back to my earlier point of playstyle, in with playstyle you have to have map style to this tank. I you get can get hull down on the smallest slope this tank start to shine. I give SS of how much damage a well placed 113 can defect.

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XxFinal_RestxX #77 Posted Sep 21 2013 - 06:57

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did u realize it too easy to get ammo rack or set on fired when others shoot at ur lower hull ? and dont expect everywhere to have something to cover it .

Edited by anhtheky, Sep 21 2013 - 07:01.


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Ok, I just bought the 113 a few days ago, and I like it!!
The main thing to consider is that the 113 is in essence a heavy medium, not a true heavy.
If you play it like a medium you will have great success with the tank.

Also note that the WZ-121 and the 113 are essentially the same tank.  Same hull, Same turret, Same gun, the only difference is the WZ-121 has less HP, but it fires the gun faster.

The 111 is more a true heavy than the 113.

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View Post1858remington, on Sep 30 2013 - 05:01, said:

Also note that the WZ-121 and the 113 are essentially the same tank.  Same hull, Same turret, Same gun, the only difference is the WZ-121 has less HP, but it fires the gun faster.
113 ufp is almost autobounce.

121 is 60degrees at most.

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I saw TS doing 113 game recently, he's good actually on it, and check his 113 stats I think 54 or 57% WR using that tank.  So I guess from January topic started to now, he mastered the tank.  I think 113 had a good ROF since I could see him shooting plenty of rounds while pushing the bowl of halluf with no or minimal damage, and of course with my awesomeness sniping support to help him(kidding)




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