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Darties #1 Posted Jan 28 2013 - 17:42

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This could be a solution to allow more clans into Clan Wars. Instead of shoving clans that are just starting into expert clans, that dominate the map, why not put them up against clans they can up against? So create different divisions of clans, just like Tank Companies, so there would be junior for clans that are just starting, medium for clans that are kinda experienced, Champion for clans that have a lot of experience and take the game more seriously, and Absolute for clans that are like -G-, Forge, and Havok. There would be a different map for each division, there would also be a considerable  less amount of gold available for lower divisions. Amount of wins would determine the level of the division the clan belongs to. This is all I have been able to come up with so far. If you have any other suggestions please share them.

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Great idea. Love it.

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they already have what your suggesting, it called tank company battles. you and your clan mates pick what level you want to play at.

but what you really want is for wot to give you gold for playing the game.  for that to happen you ( myself included) have to get a lot better at the game, learn to compete against the great clans and beat them at their own game, then when we control the land , wot will give us the gold.

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Not a bad idea. Not sure how to execute though.

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View Postatroutbum2, on Jan 28 2013 - 17:51, said:

they already have what your suggesting, it called tank company battles. you and your clan mates pick what level you want to play at.

but what you really want is for wot to give you gold for playing the game.  for that to happen you ( myself included) have to get a lot better at the game, learn to compete against the great clans and beat them at their own game, then when we control the land , wot will give us the gold.

The problem with that right now is that all the clans in CW right now are extremely good. And I don't see any clan that is going to defeat any of these currently.

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Before clan wars even started it was suggested to have tier 6,8 and 10 versions of the clan wars map, you landed wherever you thought you could compete. You don't need to be in a "league" you would naturally gravitate to the tier map you can thrive on. Wargaming discussed the idea internally and said they weren't interested.

atroutbum2 #7 Posted Jan 28 2013 - 18:08

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and how is the tier limit going to stop the great clans from forming teams of lower tier tanks and controling those maps to farm that gold  too.

the only way to stop the domination is to stop the gold payment for owing  land.  no $$$ no more clans of professional paid   wot players.

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View Postatroutbum2, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:08, said:

and how is the tier limit going to stop the great clans from forming teams of lower tier tanks and controling those maps too

the lower maps would have lower rewards, it wouldn't be worth the effort. that's the idea anyway, i'm sure there would be some subclans there. but main map 100%, second map 50%, third map 25% rewards doesn't lead many people to stay on the lower map if they have the choice.

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View Postatroutbum2, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:08, said:

and how is the tier limit going to stop the great clans from forming teams of lower tier tanks and controling those maps too

As well as once you go forward a division, you cannot move back.

ed_anger #10 Posted Jan 28 2013 - 18:13

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View PostDarties, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:11, said:

As well as once you go forward a division, you cannot move back.

"divisions" aren't necessary. rewards are enough motivation. people can level up to tier 6/8 tanks for an alt instantly if they want (buy a premium), you just give them no reason to: play on 100% map or play on 25% map which has battles at the same time, hmmm. the simpler the solution the better.

atroutbum2 #11 Posted Jan 28 2013 - 18:18

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View PostDarties, on Jan 28 2013 - 17:57, said:

The problem with that right now is that all the clans in CW right now are extremely good. And I don't see any clan that is going to defeat any of these currently.

thats because that they are full of pro players.  its like going up against tiger woods and  the ryder cup team with your high school golf team.

right now because of the gold farming, wot is paying these players to play the game.  lower the payout to these pro players and maby they will go club baby seals somewhere else

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View PostDarties, on Jan 28 2013 - 17:42, said:

This could be a solution to allow more clans into Clan Wars. Instead of shoving clans that are just starting into expert clans, that dominate the map, why not put them up against clans they can up against? So create different divisions of clans, just like Tank Companies, so there would be junior for clans that are just starting, medium for clans that are kinda experienced, Champion for clans that have a lot of experience and take the game more seriously, and Absolute for clans that are like -G-, Forge, and Havok. There would be a different map for each division, there would also be a considerable  less amount of gold available for lower divisions. Amount of wins would determine the level of the division the clan belongs to. This is all I have been able to come up with so far. If you have any other suggestions please share them.

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The problem is, the big clans arent good because they have big tanks.  its because they have big skill.  Which can drop down to any level they choose to dominate.  EG:  the tier III landings.

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View Postcap3127, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:23, said:

The problem is, the big clans arent good because they have big tanks.  its because they have big skill.  Which can drop down to any level they choose to dominate.  EG:  the tier III landings.

Once you move up a division you can't go back down. So the bigger clans will be forced to stay at the "Absolute" division.

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View Postatroutbum2, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:18, said:

right now because of the gold farming, wot is paying these players to play the game.  lower the payout to these pro players and maby they will go club baby seals somewhere else

wrong. the answer is to increase top earnings, lower bottom earnings. why do you think top clans fight in Europe, and never go into Africa? the payout is so much better in Europe. if they payouts were all low everywhere, the top players would just spread out everywhere. Africa isn't worth their effort now.

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Lol it's called africa.

ed_anger #16 Posted Jan 28 2013 - 18:32

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View PostDarties, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:24, said:

Once you move up a division you can't go back down. So the bigger clans will be forced to stay at the "Absolute" division.

i can get around any "division" you create easily if i wanted by making alts. instantly if i want by buying a premium, within days otherwise. it's a pointless complication.

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View PostThe_Mighty_Waldo, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:27, said:

Lol it's called africa.
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Darties #18 Posted Jan 28 2013 - 18:35

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View Posted_anger, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:32, said:

i can get around any "division" you create easily if i wanted by creating alts. instantly if i want buying a premium, within days otherwise. it's a pointless complication.

But who would abandon their bigger clan to get a smaller amount of gold income. The income for smaller divisions would be much smaller.

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View PostDarties, on Jan 28 2013 - 18:35, said:

But who would abandon their bigger clan to get a smaller amount of gold income. The income for smaller divisions would be much smaller.

so then you don't need artifical constraints like "divisions"

which is what i've been saying. economics will sort players.

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Why do so many want an endgame that is not the end game? We already have that. Its called Champion, Medium and Absolute Company battles.   Play all you want ...no diplomacy and no gold. Easy Mode!   And would somebody define "Big Clan" for me? 100 chips?   Put sections on the map at lower tiers and whomever dominates that will then become the mortal enemy known as big clans....this could go on ad infinum. Then we will get to listen to that inequality being played out on the forums.



I personally find the PGA tour to be ripping me.   I would play in the lower tiered stuff but there is just no reward.   Screw practicing, who has time for that?





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