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How can we get WG to add Damage Upon Detecting to Server Stats?

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Poll: Make Damage Upon Detecting available (40 members have cast votes)

Stats Matter

  1. Yes - Ninja Scouts, Spotting Mediums, etc. Deserve to be Recognized (26 votes [65.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.00%

  2. Bacon (just don't care). (4 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. Bacon - (Agree with 1. above, but cannot pass up the BACON) (10 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

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PanzerXO #1 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:41

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About the only metric that matters - which is unavailable for the stat grinders to assess - is Damage Upon Detecting.

I play a lot of medium tanks (e.g. T20) where I do the medium / scout thing.  A significant portion of the damage I do (1/3 to 1/2) ends up being DUD.  <Pun intended>  Quite often I will get 3k damage, 1k DUD.

As of now - the only part of that damage that goes into my stats (and yours) is the direct damage you did.  Yet, direct damage, damage upon detecting, spots, etc. all get plugged into your Exp and Credit awards at the end of the game.  I know that WG has the data - the question is, how do we get them to release it?

Anyway - vote if you'd like to see this info available.

TIA

PanzerXO #2 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:43

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We all know that Spotting - and not SUISCOUT spotting - but the kind that lights up the team for your campers, hiders, arty and snipers is a key element in a win.

It should be an available statistic.

_ErwinRommel__ #3 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:46

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there is a scout award

bhawk1 #4 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:47

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I would love, love to see this.  Currently I track it via the WOT Performance Analyzer, which grabs that info from your battle results data files, but those files are separate from the local Dossier file and the server stats.

CallMeBlitz #5 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:48

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He makes a good point though... it should be a stat that people can see. Its much more important than an initial detect, especially if you initially spot, then die. What good is that?

tvanderhart #6 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:48

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View Post_ErwinRommel__, on Feb 05 2013 - 19:46, said:

there is a scout award

You completely missed his point.

bhawk1 #7 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:48

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View Post_ErwinRommel__, on Feb 05 2013 - 19:46, said:

there is a scout award

And this means what?

arstechnophile #8 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:48

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View Post_ErwinRommel__, on Feb 05 2013 - 19:46, said:

there is a scout award
Not even close to comparable. I've had games in my M26 where I had 5k spotting damage and didn't get Scout.

pathetik #9 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 19:53

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My damage ratio in most of my scouts are below 1.0, if DUD were added it would be well above 2.0, a couple approaching 4.0.  This is, imo, the most important stat for a scout.

VillainousButler #10 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 20:38

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who cares about this topic?
The bacon's more important!

Edited by VillainousButler, Feb 05 2013 - 20:39.


CryoVolt #11 Posted Feb 05 2013 - 20:41

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I don't think this was tracked by WG in the beginning so it would not be possible to resurrect this for history.

PanzerXO #12 Posted Feb 06 2013 - 03:05

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View PostSyndicate, on Feb 05 2013 - 20:41, said:

I don't think this was tracked by WG in the beginning so it would not be possible to resurrect this for history.
I would not care if they just started tracking it.  It cannot but be a net gain for all - and if they do have 'old' data to add; the goods will still be goods, etc.

The big thing is, if we're going to look at a player's contribution to a win - we need DUD.

NeatoMan #13 Posted Feb 06 2013 - 03:09

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Simplest thing they could do is just show average base XP.  Then we wouldn't need any more fancy efficiency calculators.