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For the Record: M4 and Pz4 Derps to be Nerfed

You Knew It Was Coming Derp! M4 Pz4

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OOPMan #1 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:02

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So, from today's For The Record:

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(a compilation of more Storm Special answers + the regular thread)
- Storm doesn't see unusual/buggy amount of "teleporting" tanks
- players won't be able to test tanks without entering the test server (technical reasons)
- map clickspam won't be remedied for technical reasons
- module menu won't be made transparent
- it's not planned to implement a feature where you will be able to recognize whether you are lighting up the enemy or someone else is
- the fact crews "forget" previously trained tanks won't be changed
- prem tanks won't be possible to sell for gold (not even for reduced amount)
- there will be no official WG module layouts and armor schematics for vehicles
- KV-5 won't be buffed and its MM won't be improved, it would be imbalanced otherwise
- tank horn will most likely not return
- M4 and Panzer IV gold derp shells will be nerfed. How - Storm is still deciding.
- El Halluf slopes will be fixed (they cause too many detracks of light tanks)
- SerB describes how weird low-damage hits are the result of residual damage, shell damage that hits external modules (gun, tracks) and penetrates into the hull diminishes its damage (and penetration) by the amount of the module HP (for example if a 200 DAM shell hits tracks that have 50hp, penetrates them and the armor behind them and does damage the tank itself, the damage on the tank will be 150)
- the screenshot Panzer I is the Ausf. B - the Ausf. A might go to the Chinese tree
- Panzer I won't have regular 7,92mm ammo, because it's ineffective
- current average arty amount per team per battle is around 3, but SerB states this statistic is worthless, because it's not natural, it's caused by hardcap
- French hightier vehicles without autoloaders still planned

Note the highlighted text...

You knew it was coming...

Now, quit whining about OP Derps and get Derping while ye may!

Daigensui #2 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:04

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Yes yes, you're hours late.

Back to your original schedule.

tvanderhart #3 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:04

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Oh good.  It's about time.  Now the whining can stop. (and start right back up from the other side... :facepalmic: )

Knew that low tier HEAT was being nerfed, but it's nice to see specifics.

Edited by tvanderhart, Feb 11 2013 - 15:05.


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Oh well, we had a good run. M4 with normal HE still wrecks at least.

SteelReign #5 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:05

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- the fact crews "forget" previously trained tanks won't be changed
IMO, one of the worst things about the game. Thank God another game on the horizon is changing that. I haven't really touched WOT in a week or two.

OOPMan #6 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:06

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View PostKankou, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:04, said:

Yes yes, you're hours late.

Back to your original schedule.

Sorry :-(

NavySnipers #7 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:06

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-French high tier vehicles without autoloaders still planned.

AMX-30??

SteelReign #8 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:10

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View PostNavySnipers, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:06, said:

AMX-30??
Yup. I can't wait, that is one sexy looking tank.

OOPMan #9 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:12

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View PostNavySnipers, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:06, said:

AMX-30??

Yep. Apparently there was an outcry because they were removed from the Tech Tree renders along with a bunch of other tanks not in-game right now so the devs had to make a statement saying they're stilled planned and will re-appear in the tech tree renders when they're due to land.

Skraeling #10 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:15

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You mean my churchill 1/ t14 might be playable again?

You hit kv1 for 120dmg!

Kv1 hits you for 450dmg... you have died.

Kinzig #11 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:20

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View PostSkraeling, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:15, said:

You mean my churchill 1/ t14 might be playable again?

Damn and I just sold my T-14, used to have a lot of fun with that tank :(

Herr_Klug #12 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:22

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Hmmmmm .... no mention of Hetzer.

OOPMan #13 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:23

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View PostSkraeling, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:15, said:

You mean my churchill 1/ t14 might be playable again?

You hit kv1 for 120dmg!

Kv1 hits you for 450dmg... you have died.

I've been doing okay in my Churchills lately. The trick is the mess with their aim and get your tracks to eat the shots. HEAT is a persnickety thing and has a horrible tendency to get 0-dmg pens more often than one would think...

Skraeling #14 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:24

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View PostOOPMan, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:23, said:

I've been doing okay in my Churchills lately. The trick is the mess with their aim and get your tracks to eat the shots. HEAT is a persnickety thing and has a horrible tendency to get 0-dmg pens more often than one would think...

eh the reloads quick enough it doesnt matter.  Whats the point of having a just dps gun when you get alpha and dps lol.

cskiff #15 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:26

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View PostOOPMan, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:02, said:

So, from today's For The Record:



Note the highlighted text...

You knew it was coming...

Now, quit whining about OP Derps and get Derping while ye may!

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quit whining, thats a laugh...this community will only find another tank to bandwagon until its nuetered as well

Kinzig #16 Posted Feb 11 2013 - 15:31

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View PostOOPMan, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:23, said:



I've been doing okay in my Churchills lately. The trick is the mess with their aim and get your tracks to eat the shots. HEAT is a persnickety thing and has a horrible tendency to get 0-dmg pens more often than one would think...

Nice thing about the churchills is the last guns are good enough to nullify tier 5 and 6 derps at range for sure.

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View PostThinskin, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:31, said:

Nice thing about the churchills is the last guns are good enough to nullify tier 5 and 6 derps at range for sure.

Indeed, the 75mm Vickers HV is a fantasic weapon for its tier. I've just rebought my Churchill to grind the 50k XP or so I will need for the Churchill Gun Carrier and I'd forgotten how much fun it is to shred things :-)

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The real problem with the HEAT rounds are people are to stupid to counter it, not that its OP. Its OP in the right hands but only in the right hands, most are noobs and can't use HEAT effectively and most of us complain about noobs so we all know how many are in this game.

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The thing is, WG rarely takes players' opinions into consideration when deciding to buff/nerf something. I suspect there must have been something in the data that made them decide on this.

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View PostSteelReign, on Feb 11 2013 - 15:05, said:

IMO, one of the worst things about the game. Thank God another game on the horizon is changing that. I haven't really touched WOT in a week or two.


Call me when they put tanks in the game AND make bombing runs fun for the bombee.