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CuFBOOMER #1 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:17

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When will the German Heavy line get a true tier X heavy tank? :Smile_amazed:  All the other nations have modern heavy tier X's. It must have been a stop gap for the germans to get the MAUS and E100, because the maker of this game making such a effort to balance the game play out.  :Smile_great: All the German tech tree for the heavys line was developed in the early 1930's to the early 1940's compared to all other nations with the heavy tanks that they have been developed in the late 1940 to mid 1950's. So I ask again what has happened to the German tier X. :Smile_popcorn1:  This also goes for the whole German tech tree if you want to compare tank by tank, but I am bringing the issue of the heavy line up because that is what is most lacking in a balanced game. One other thing why is it that a MAUS tier X gun pens less than a Tier VIII premium American heavy tank? :Smile_sceptic:  Using AP rounds just a thought. So if the developers can put a hold on fixing the sound a tree makes when falls,water sound, and butterfly effect and correct this issue with German line i think this would make WOT a more balance game to play. :Smile_teethhappy:

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It is difficult when the other nations that are in the game developed tanks during the 50's and essentially after WWII Germany's military became non-existent.  This greatly limits the available vehicles to choose from compared to the other countries who movedto other technologies after the war.

hotshot75 #3 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:20

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so, the Maus and E100 dont count as teir 10 heavy tank?

as for the time, after WW 2 the german armed forces were disbanned, the country was split in two, the US took over gaurding the Western half, the U.S.S.R the east. there is no German tanks from the 50s or even the 60s.

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Tigermisu #4 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:21

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Your wall o' text reminds me of a Maus's side...  :Smile_Default:

citylightva #5 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:21

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That's actually a valid thought, perhaps on deaf ears though...

SULOMON #6 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:22

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View PostMACMACMAC, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:19, said:

It is difficult when the other nations that are in the game developed tanks during the 50's and essentially after WWII Germany's military became non-existent.  This greatly limits the available vehicles to choose from compared to the other countries who movedto other technologies after the war.
^This^ They are adding the leopard 1 as a medium which is on par for when it was developed with other nations but I don't think it's possible for a heavy tank.

Sparater #7 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:23

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I have played all the tier 10s except the Chinese and British tanks, and I do agree that the German tier 10s are slacking. However, I do like the fact that WG is slowly buffing the German tanks (well at least trying to help them out?). They did buff the E-100 turret armor, increase its traverse, and give the maus 3000hp (well it had it before but ok). I also like how WG let us buy premium ammo with credits even though its expensive as....

I don't think the Germans will ever get an equal tier 10 like the Americans and Soviets. They are even nerfing the E-50M (I was gonna say again but its the E-50M this time not the E-50).

Xplato #8 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:24

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View Posthotshot75, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:20, said:

so, the Maus and E100 dont count as teir 10 heavy tank?

as for the time, after WW 2 the german armed forces were disbanned, the country was split in two, the US took over gaurding the Western half, the U.S.S.R the east. there is no German tanks from the 50s or even the 60s.
he means the German heavies are all ww2 designs, while the other nations tier 10 are post ww2.
now i don't care about historical accuracy, but the Germans need a post ww2 tier 10 heavy.
Also pro tip WG this doesn't mean giving German tanks more armor.

mattwong #9 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:26

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To be honest, I don't see why Germany should even have any tier 10 tanks at all.  As everyone points out, they had no real military during the latter part of the game's time period.  They gave them the benefit of the doubt by taking designs that were wildly impractical or never existed past the napkinwaffle stage, and making them into capable combat vehicles.  Germany should stop at tier 8.

The problem is that everyone figures every team should have equal strength, even though people don't actually play the nations as teams anyway, so it would have no effect on game balance.  Really, it's just about fanboyism: people would go nuts if Germany was capped at tier 8, so they had to tease out all of Germany's lines until they could produce tier 10 vehicles.

Vladimir__Poutine #10 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:26

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Well there is no tanks establish by Germany during the 50s and 60s. The Leopard  Prototype is produces in the 50s then in the 60s the Leopard 1 is produced. I looked over the German tree and the Leopard 1 is expected to become the second German medium line from the VK3002DB.


Click here if you want me to show proof.

MeltingCheese #11 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:27

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When Russian bias goes away.

CuFBOOMER #12 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:29

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Thank you for making my point soo clear, and I do hope it does not fall on deaf ears. :Smile_Default:

hotshot75 #13 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:30

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View Postmattwong, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:26, said:

To be honest, I don't see why Germany should even have any tier 10 tanks at all.  As everyone points out, they had no real military during the latter part of the game's time period.  They gave them the benefit of the doubt by taking designs that were wildly impractical or never existed past the napkinwaffle stage, and making them into capable combat vehicles.  Germany should stop at tier 8.

The problem is that everyone figures every team should have equal strength, even though people don't actually play the nations as teams anyway, so it would have no effect on game balance.  Really, it's just about fanboyism: people would go nuts if Germany was capped at tier 8, so they had to tease out all of Germany's lines until they could produce tier 10 vehicles.

exactly. though i disagree about capping them at teir 8.

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View Postmattwong, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:26, said:

To be honest, I don't see why Germany should even have any tier 10 tanks at all.  As everyone points out, they had no real military during the latter part of the game's time period.  They gave them the benefit of the doubt by taking designs that were wildly impractical or never existed past the napkinwaffle stage, and making them into capable combat vehicles.  Germany should stop at tier 8.

The problem is that everyone figures every team should have equal strength, even though people don't actually play the nations as teams anyway, so it would have no effect on game balance.  Really, it's just about fanboyism: people would go nuts if Germany was capped at tier 8, so they had to tease out all of Germany's lines until they could produce tier 10 vehicles.

Agree (+1)

Start the Post-War line with the US-supplied M48, which equipped the Bundeswehr before the Leopard did.

Driftin #15 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:32

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The E100 is great since the last round of buffs and premium rounds for credits. Why does it matter what era it was from? It has no issue dealing with the other tier 10's and is being used in clan wars a lot more these days.

Dagner #16 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:36

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View PostSULOMON, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:22, said:

^This^ They are adding the leopard 1 as a medium which is on par for when it was developed with other nations but I don't think it's possible for a heavy tank.

If they added this tank with decent (not OP but on par) stats i would be very happy and spend more gold on the game than i already am!

Xplato #17 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:38

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View PostDriftin, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:32, said:

The E100 is great since the last round of buffs and premium rounds for credits. Why does it matter what era it was from? It has no issue dealing with the other tier 10's and is being used in clan wars a lot more these days.
compare it to the E5, your point isn't valid.
Lets also make one thing clear the e-100 isn't a German tank, it has no basis for its design, and conflicts with the German production capabilities.  Germany would never design a tank that weighed more than the kt.

VegasRon #18 Posted Feb 19 2013 - 23:44

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View Postmattwong, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:26, said:

To be honest, I don't see why Germany should even have any tier 10 tanks at all.  As everyone points out, they had no real military during the latter part of the game's time period.  They gave them the benefit of the doubt by taking designs that were wildly impractical or never existed past the napkinwaffle stage, and making them into capable combat vehicles.  Germany should stop at tier 8.

The problem is that everyone figures every team should have equal strength, even though people don't actually play the nations as teams anyway, so it would have no effect on game balance.  Really, it's just about fanboyism: people would go nuts if Germany was capped at tier 8, so they had to tease out all of Germany's lines until they could produce tier 10 vehicles.

You're a moron.

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View PostXplato, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:38, said:

compare it to the E5, your point isn't valid.
Lets also make one thing clear the e-100 isn't a German tank, it has no basis for its design, and conflicts with the German production capabilities.  Germany would never design a tank that weighed more than the kt.

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View Posthotshot75, on Feb 19 2013 - 23:20, said:

so, the Maus and E100 dont count as teir 10 heavy tank?

as for the time, after WW 2 the german armed forces were disbanned, the country was split in two, the US took over gaurding the Western half, the U.S.S.R the east. there is no German tanks from the 50s or even the 60s.

The Leopard I would like to have a word with you.