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AlliedPowers #1 Posted Feb 24 2013 - 23:34

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I have heard people saying T18 is OP, and not OP. What is your opinion? People say its OP by it's tough armor,75mm derp, and speed. I often use the QF 2 pounder, is that count overpowered?=45 damage, 61 pen, and 28 rof? Please tell me, comment on bottom. We've had the arty mass nerf, does anyone know whens the mass TD nerf?

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they use the 75 or the 105 i cant remember which one it is and use gold

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View Postgreekguy, on Feb 24 2013 - 23:35, said:

How many times I see that?
1. How many times I see that?
2. They use the 75. If they have the 105, the T18 would make the battle very unbalanced.

Strium168 #4 Posted Feb 24 2013 - 23:35

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What the hell is a mass TD nerf? Why would that even happen?

It wasn't even a mass arty nerf. They just tweaked art to balance the game

And to answer your question: The T18 + derp +gold ammo is OP for its tier.

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It has terrible armor... ever try shooting the upper hull on it's right side? there is no armor there (not the super-structure).


my pz2 loves fighting these, as they think they will win, but I shred them.

Edited by MrsmilieyfaceC8, Feb 24 2013 - 23:36.


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View PostStrium168, on Feb 24 2013 - 23:35, said:

What the hell is a mass TD nerf? Why would that even happen?

It wasn't even a mass arty nerf. They just tweaked art to balance the game

And to answer your question: The T18 + derp +gold ammo is OP for its tier.
Why on earth would you use gold ammo with the derp... HE one shots almost all tier 2's while the gold ammo only does ~100.

cwjian90 #7 Posted Feb 24 2013 - 23:38

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The T18's 75 mm howitzer does 175 damage (enough to one-shot any Tier 2) and has 38 mm of penetration, in a tier where the heaviest tank armour besides the T18 is 40 mm.

hayhay58c #8 Posted Feb 24 2013 - 23:40

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It's not really OP, it's just at that tier nobody knows how to aim at it, so all their shots bounce off

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View PostBCEMonkey, on Feb 24 2013 - 23:37, said:

Why on earth would you use gold ammo with the derp... HE one shots almost all tier 2's while the gold ammo only does ~100.

Didnt seem that way when I used it

Otto_von_Boris #10 Posted Feb 24 2013 - 23:44

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Just flank it and it's as good as dead.

BCEMonkey #11 Posted Feb 24 2013 - 23:47

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View PostStrium168, on Feb 24 2013 - 23:41, said:

Didnt seem that way when I used it
You used it for 15 battles and only won 5... How exactly did it seem to you?

Strium168 #12 Posted Feb 25 2013 - 00:03

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Hm, the thing is. You really don't need to play 100 battles in that thing to know how a derp works.

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View PostBCEMonkey, on Feb 24 2013 - 23:37, said:

Why on earth would you use gold ammo with the derp... HE one shots almost all tier 2's while the gold ammo only does ~100.

Penetration, that's why a T18 tanker with a 75mm Derp Gun would chose to shoot HEAT rounds instead of HE rounds.

Good luck trying penetrating and killing an elite'd AMX 38's frontally with HE rounds, before it kills you. Besides it'll see you, before you see it.

TalonV #14 Posted Feb 25 2013 - 00:12

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It's not OP, granted the gun hits hard at close range.  But flank it with a fast tank, gun can't do a whole hell of a lot.  Love flanking and clip killing T18s in my T2LT or T1E6.

Always funny to watch them flail about trying to shake me.

easy8tanker #15 Posted Feb 25 2013 - 00:15

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The T18 is the most Op tank at tier 2. The armor is the best at tier 2 with 51mm. The gun can one shot tier 2 tanks. The speed is way to fast for all that armor on it.

All WG needs to do to balance the tank out is to remove the DERP gun and reduce the speed and increase turing time.

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View Posthayhay58c, on Feb 24 2013 - 23:40, said:

It's not really OP, it's just at that tier nobody knows how to aim at it, so all their shots bounce off

That being said, the accuracy on tier II tanks' guns isn't exactly stellar either; you have to be at near point-blank range to hit with any sort of precision

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View Posteasy8tanker, on Feb 25 2013 - 00:15, said:

The T18 is the most Op tank at tier 2. The armor is the best at tier 2 with 51mm. The gun can one shot tier 2 tanks. The speed is way to fast for all that armor on it.

All WG needs to do to balance the tank out is to remove the DERP gun and reduce the speed and increase turing time.

It's an annoying tank to face in a tier 2, but it's hardly invulnerable. The front "hood" is very weakly armored and can be penned by most guns in the game, the only reason people don't shoot there is they think the slope would make their shots bounce. It's a strong tier 2, but nowhere as OP as a KV-1s in tier 6.

Jesse_the_Scout #18 Posted Feb 25 2013 - 01:20

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First TD I played much of.  It's pretty great, and even OP imo.  Great armor and gun for its tier and the mobility is still quite good.  I hate facing them with my low tier premies, even gold bounces a lot.

qyy #19 Posted Feb 26 2013 - 02:20

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i sold mine the cruser mkiv is the new seal clubbing tank of choice :p but the derp and fast rof gun are great and op

Patrician #20 Posted Feb 26 2013 - 03:28

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The T18 is not OP:  it is just that most of the folks playing in the matches it gets in love their burst weapons.  The rapid-fire .50 cals and other guns like it that many folks play with these days have little chance to penetrate the frontal armor of the T18 (especially at medium to long range).  Flank the TD and aim at it's tracks and you can render it helpless.  Take it on in a face-to-face slugging match and get your a** handed to you.

I am a little shy of 1 K games in the little beastie, and I love it.  The Howie is the way to go with a max'd out crew and gun rammer.  When a M2 Light or a BT-2 try plaster you with machine gun fire on your front, it is Ping-ping city.  Meanwhile you are pumping out shell after shell of HE ammo and whacking them for 1/2 their HP or greater with each shot.

Still, I have been pwnd by T2 Light Tanks that knew how to run circles around the TD and shred it.

No, the T18 is not OP.  It is just that a good player can clobber other players who don't recognize it's weaknesses.

Note:  Even the best T18 player will hemorrhage credits if they use gold ammo.  Two to four shots with premium rounds will wipe out any profit you can hope to make, even on a win.  (Of course, if you have deep pockets, you can spend gold - and I thank you for supporting the game)  Shoot five or more per game and you will have to go back to playing the tier 1's to build up your bank account because you're broke.  There may be some folks who use gold rounds thinking they are pressing the "win" button;  they are mistaken.  Even the wins will lose cash, and the losses will bankrupt you.