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tankomaniac #1 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 16:43

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While i have big chance in my phanther solo vs tiger-IS tank almost zero chance vs t29 ... i know t29 have weak hull and strong tower but this tank is a bit overpowered as low tier heavy tank... While phanther is able to face to face vs tiger - IS close range or snipe fight, low chance vs t29... Devs plese study takns balance before relase ... i know this is beta but even beta put to game more balance, almost zero fun to fight in top medium vs t29.

WarWolverineWarrior #2 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 16:48

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Don't worry they are getting 20% armor nerf with the new patch. Then they will be tissue paper thin.

Colditz #3 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 16:50

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Oh, don't worry, I believe the T32 can have a maximum turret armor of 298mm, correct me if I'm wrong. I know what you mean, and I hate it too. I usually have to rely on teammates and gang up on these american tanks, once you track them, it'll be all good, drive around them and punch 'em in the rear, of course this sounds easier as it is depending on the situation but it will give you a slight edge.  :Smile_honoring:

Stirlitz #4 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 16:55

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i know how you feel, my t44s 100mm bounces off its tracks... Its a combination of T29 over performing and top tier mediums being as useless as falling trees.

Arkhell #5 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 17:01

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they get a nerf to armor, accuracy, accuracy on the move turret travers i think and soem other stuff so don't worry you'll be able to tickle them to death in a lol tracktor soon ;)

No19 #6 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 17:01

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I know what you mean, I'm in my tiger and i see a T29 and I'm like oh good easy kill then my first shot bounce, 2d bounce, 3d ping, then i go what is going on here, and i wasn't using auto aim i was trying to track it or hit the rear but kept turning so he killed me and yeah i wasn't happy with that. And good there getting a nerf :)

SiriusCrow #7 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 17:23

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I use HE shells in any of the tanks that I run and hit them right on the turret ring! Critical hit every time! I have spoken to the drivers of numerous T29s and they admit that I either kill the gunner or driver or take out the gun.

a1fox3 #8 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 17:23

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Well 3 hits from the front body in my T29 and i am dead so i dont see what you are talking about.
Now if you hit the front turret the armor on that is over 400mm so hit the body that is just over 100mm.
EVERY ONE KNOWS TO SHOOT THE BODY OF US TANKS.
If the US T7-T10 get to much of a nerf i will not play them any more for the paper thin body armor.
http://en.wikipedia..../T29_Heavy_Tank

Pliffmaster #9 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 20:14

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Except that nobody shoots your front turret but instead aims for tracks/undercarriage and still gets unbelievable amounts of bounces. I too am a panther driver and while I try to avoid 1v1s against heavies I am confident against tigers and IS-1s but might as well not engage T29s because unless you are standing right in front of it and use the fact that your turret is higher than your undercarriage (thus reducing effective slope) the long 88 bounces the vast majority of shots on your supposedly paper thin frontal undercarriage armor. Also 3 ap hits from a t7 tank (which is the class you should compare yourself to) will not ever kill you unless your ammo blows or you burn out. Stop exaggerating. Thank you.

APAC_Legend_Derp #10 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 20:17

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Armor hull front upper 4 in (102 mm) at 54 degrees
hull front lower 2.75 in (70 mm) at 58 degrees
gun shield 8 to 11 inches (203 to 279 mm)
turret front 7 in (178 mm) at 0 degrees
turret sides 5 in (127 mm) at 0 degrees[1]

So yea, the turret is 178mm, not 300mm-400mm. ;_;

ed_anger #11 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 20:27

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View Posttankomaniac, on Dec 13 2010 - 16:43, said:

While i have big chance in my phanther solo vs tiger-IS tank almost zero chance vs t29 ... i know t29 have weak hull and strong tower but this tank is a bit overpowered as low tier heavy tank... While phanther is able to face to face vs tiger - IS close range or snipe fight, low chance vs t29... Devs plese study takns balance before relase ... i know this is beta but even beta put to game more balance, almost zero fun to fight in top medium vs t29.
it's getting these nerfs already next patch:

T29, Т32, Т34, Т30: fixed error with discrepancy between displayed and actual hull armor. Actual armor decreased by 20%.

T29: increased visibility of the tank, -5% accuracy during movement and traverse, 105mm_Gun_T5E1 - reloading (in seconds) 9.5->10, by 10% reduced traverse speed for top turret, fixed display of frontal armor for both turrets, changed guns ammunition.

http://forum.worldof...ta-0624-update/

Baconnaise #12 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 22:05

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The only tank I've bounced consistently on tracks with is the IS4. I don't know but the huge target of the tracks on american heavies I just can't fathom what the complaint is about. They are already weak as hell and should be left the way they are now. It surprises me how many people with higher tier tanks obviously use auto aim or show a general laziness. It's obvious the complainers about american heavies are auto aimers. They claim to use manual aim but we all know you're lying! If you aimed for hull barring the freakish bounce that happens to us on just about any tank even low tiers there is no you can fail to damage those american heavies in the hull with consistency.

Stop lying and stop asking for nerfs to tanks that already kind of suck.

Stop trolling and lrn2ply or uninstall the game.

virtusx #13 Posted Dec 13 2010 - 23:48

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View PostSiriusCrow, on Dec 13 2010 - 17:23, said:

I use HE shells in any of the tanks that I run and hit them right on the turret ring! Critical hit every time! I have spoken to the drivers of numerous T29s and they admit that I either kill the gunner or driver or take out the gun.

That will change next patch, HE will no longer do module damage if it does not penetrate, it may do crew damage though. It will still do damage, but not this ridiculous one hit and half my modules are gone stuff and it applies to arty too. I look forward to that.

As for the "nerfs" I do not think they will matter that much, they are minor. I mean look at them, reload from 9.5 to 10, OH NO! .5 seconds which is reduced with a rammer anyway. 5% more visibility and a little more time to aim when traversing turret, which is also somewhat negated with a GLD.

No if there is a wipe I will still get my T29 again and an isu-152. Love my hull down T29 and you would be surprised how often I can hull down.

xvss #14 Posted Dec 14 2010 - 00:53

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I have no problem against a t29 with my panther, just learn where to shot.

hazywater #15 Posted Dec 14 2010 - 01:02

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Yes it is OP. Will it be after the patch? Nope. It will still have a great gun, but don't confuse the gun with the tank. Otherwise, the KV will have to be nerfed.

kelvinsilva #16 Posted Dec 14 2010 - 01:23

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i took down a t29 with my 105mm sherman (but it was at 30% so it was easy).
i dont think that the t29 should be, i mean it is a heavy tank right?

zareh #17 Posted Dec 14 2010 - 01:45

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To see what all the talk was on US heavies, I went back to the M3 Lee, grinded the heavy line and grinded 1,4m credits and bought a T29, it's clearly bugged... so much so that I sold it, in my personal view it's armor does need to be adjusted.

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View Postzareh, on Dec 14 2010 - 01:45, said:

To see what all the talk was on US heavies, I went back to the M3 Lee, grinded the heavy line and grinded 1,4m credits and bought a T29, it's clearly bugged... so much so that I sold it, in my personal view it's armor does need to be adjusted.

Why? can you articulate why? is it the turret armor? is it the hull? why?

I can tell you with about 160 games in my T29 that the hull armor is not strong even with the bug. If you adjust the turret down then you need to adjust the hull up and you know what you will get? An IS. If you play against a smart T29 player it can hurt; however, I (like all T29 players at times) have been caught in the open a number of times and taken apart quickly with shots to the hull. On the other hand, I have gone hull down behind a destroyed tank or behind a small hill and held off a number of tanks or destroyed tanks above my tier and it sounded like hail on my turret. If they nerf the T29 then they need to nerf the IS's speed and/or gun as well. By the way, you need to play a tank at least 50 games (except for the Lee, you don't need 50 to see it is not good) to get a decent handle on it, if you played it a few games or even 20 you cannot say that it is "clearly bugged" and needs to be adjusted.

In your case I see you played it 69 games, i would be interested in your view of bugged.

Vibora #19 Posted Dec 14 2010 - 04:19

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While the T29 is the best Tier7 the T34 is comepletely ridiculous at Tier 9.

Hotwired #20 Posted Dec 14 2010 - 04:34

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View PostBigCheese256, on Dec 13 2010 - 20:17, said:

Armor hull front upper 4 in (102 mm) at 54 degrees
hull front lower 2.75 in (70 mm) at 58 degrees
gun shield 8 to 11 inches (203 to 279 mm)
turret front 7 in (178 mm) at 0 degrees
turret sides 5 in (127 mm) at 0 degrees[1]

So yea, the turret is 178mm, not 300mm-400mm. ;_;

178 * 1.2 = current "bugged" armour

178 * 1.2 = 214mm




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