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Poll: What tier 6 medium tank do you recommend? (119 members have cast votes)

Which do you prefer?

  1. M4A3E8 "easy eight" (17 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  2. M4A3E2 "jumbo" (14 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  3. T-34-85 (16 votes [13.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.45%

  4. Cromwell (26 votes [21.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.85%

  5. Type 58 (2 votes [1.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.68%

  6. VK3001P (2 votes [1.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.68%

  7. VK3601H (37 votes [31.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.09%

  8. VK3001H (5 votes [4.20%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.20%

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Diament_Zbroja #1 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 20:49

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When I ask what tank I should get, I often get asked "well, what's you're play style?" The thing is, I'm not sure. I always assumed that medium tanks just play the roles of supporting the pushes of heavies by flanking the things they engage. is there really different "play styles" when going about this?

Maybe showing you all my current elite vehicles will help you guys in helping me. (they're all elite):

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SU-26
Matilda
Ren. UE 57.
M5A1
AMX105 AM
KV-1S

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Should I get a super fast tank like the Cromwell, T-34-85, Easy Eight or one of the VK3001s? Their armor looks like garbage with no slope either on some of them, but the guns like the famous 88 look reliable for the job they preform.

Or I could get one of the super armored tanks like the VK3601H with the same 88mm gun and 100mm of frontal armor capable of going 40 or the Sherman Jumbo with a whopping 102mm fully sloped frontal armor, but with less mobility and a much weaker gun?

In real life the idea of medium tanks was very appealing because they were easy to mass produce, but I don't see how they're of much use when each side has 15 tanks. You could just have 15 KV-1 VS 15 T-34 and I can almost guarantee the heavy tanks win. That being said why doesn't everybody simply play heavy tanks while disregarding the weaker medium tanks?

Edited by Diament_Zbroja, Mar 23 2013 - 20:49.


Vladimir__Poutine #2 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 20:50

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Well, I recommend you the VK3601H. Great performance in battle. Though it depends how good you play them.

Diacom #3 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 20:56

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You think the 34-85 is super fast???

icoleman #4 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 20:57

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Any of the tier 6 vk's would be my choice.
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Edited by icoleman, Mar 23 2013 - 20:57.


BigDeal85 #5 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 20:57

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kv1s  :teethhappy:

icoleman #6 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 20:58

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View PostBigDeal85, on Mar 23 2013 - 20:57, said:

kv1s  :teethhappy:
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RodneyDangerfield #7 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 20:59

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Just pick one already.  It's not like your going to stop where you are at the other lines. You will evntually get them all.  Frankly it kind of sounds like stupid games chicks play.

Chick " Are you hungry?"
Guy "yep"
Chick "what do you want?"
Guy "pizza"
Chick "naa I don't want pizza"
Guy "chicken?"
Chick ""nope"
Guy "burgers?"
Chick "I don't feel like burgers."
.............
5 min later guy makes a sandwich to eat while chick still can't decide......

captking #8 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:00

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Crom is the Best TierVI hands down...Speed,Camo,  great gun....its what a Medium tank should be....

killswitch95 #9 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:02

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VK3601H all the way, its the best tier 6, hands down

Lazar_Lyusternik #10 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:04

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It really depends. The VK3601(H) and M4A3E2 are basically 'pocket' heavies. The rest are flankers to one degree or another. The VK3001P is better in my opinion than the 3001H, but it doesn't lead to any more mediums.

lieutenant_pickles #11 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:04

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3601H is awesome. its like a mini-tiger with a ton of mobility.

Pterosaur #12 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:05

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Cromwell...Nuff said.

TheRonmasteh #13 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:05

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One Easy 8 to rule them all. Best 'true Medium' for me. HAven't played the Cromwell, but it's quite another favourite as well.

3601 is very noob friendly, as it's a heavy/medium mix.

GARATR0N #14 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:09

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Cromwell is some major fun, but the VK3601H can really dish out and take damage. These two tanks would be my choices. So it really comes down to if you want to be fast or tough, and also which line you would rather go down in the end.

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Easy 8 is extremely fun and so is the Cromwell. Jumbo is more of a heavy but quite fast. T-34-85 has firepower and so does the VK's. VK3601 has good armor like the Jumbo but isn't that fast

Kevlar1972 #16 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:13

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View PostDiament_Zbroja, on Mar 23 2013 - 20:49, said:

That being said why doesn't everybody simply play heavy tanks while disregarding the weaker medium tanks?

Medium tanks combine the firepower of a heavy with superior mobility.  They don't have armor like a heavy, but they can do things a heavy can not.  Like run back to reset cap, or in some cases circle a heavy tank to death while the heavy is helpless to do anything about it.  They allow you to outflank fortified positions.  They can scout somewhat, and are great at taking out artillery or enemy scouts.

FlorbFnarb #17 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:14

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View PostDiament_Zbroja, on Mar 23 2013 - 20:49, said:

When I ask what tank I should get, I often get asked "well, what's you're play style?" The thing is, I'm not sure. I always assumed that medium tanks just play the roles of supporting the pushes of heavies by flanking the things they engage. is there really different "play styles" when going about this?

Maybe showing you all my current elite vehicles will help you guys in helping me. (they're all elite):

PZ I C.
SU-26
Matilda
Ren. UE 57.
M5A1
AMX105 AM
KV-1S

__________

Should I get a super fast tank like the Cromwell, T-34-85, Easy Eight or one of the VK3001s? Their armor looks like garbage with no slope either on some of them, but the guns like the famous 88 look reliable for the job they preform.

Or I could get one of the super armored tanks like the VK3601H with the same 88mm gun and 100mm of frontal armor capable of going 40 or the Sherman Jumbo with a whopping 102mm fully sloped frontal armor, but with less mobility and a much weaker gun?

In real life the idea of medium tanks was very appealing because they were easy to mass produce, but I don't see how they're of much use when each side has 15 tanks. You could just have 15 KV-1 VS 15 T-34 and I can almost guarantee the heavy tanks win. That being said why doesn't everybody simply play heavy tanks while disregarding the weaker medium tanks?

The 3601 and Jumbo are both fantastic tanks.  The 3601 should be played like a heavy.  It has good speed but poor agility; it doesn't turn well.  Use the 88 on it and you've got a proper heavy tank gun, although a trifle low on the pen.

The Jumbo is a great tank, but play it like a medium most of the time.  The speed is lowish, but not terribly low, the good horsepower:weight ratio gives you plenty of acceleration to reach top speed quickly, and the tank is quite agile, and turns well.  You can and should flank with it whenever the opportunity arises.

The 105mm gun will require a good bit of HEAT usage, especially when bottom tier, and has good pen, but not enough to get through the front of most Tier 7 and 8 tanks, especially the heavies and a lot of TDs.  If you use the 76mm guns, the M1A2 is more accurate and faster-firing than the M1A1, but requires you to give up the heavily armored turret.  I prefer to run the heavy turret with the M1A1 most of the time.  76mm AP has plenty of pen to get through the front of anything at Tier 6 except an ARL 44 or another Jumbo.  Against higher tier tanks you'll want to flank, but the 76mm gun's 128mm of pen is more than enough to pen the sides of almost anything a Jumbo sees.  Keep some APCR on board for the occasional KV-4 or KV-5.

Both are great tanks.  I have a lot of noob-matches on my Jumbo but I've gotten its win rate up to 54% I believe, and my 3601 is somewhere around 63% and still rising, even though I only used the possibly-a-little-OP Konisch gun only enough to research the 75L/70 gun and then got rid of it.

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View PostKevlar1972, on Mar 23 2013 - 21:13, said:

Medium tanks combine the firepower of a heavy with superior mobility.  They don't have armor like a heavy, but they can do things a heavy can not.  Like run back to reset cap, or in some cases circle a heavy tank to death while the heavy is helpless to do anything about it.  They allow you to outflank fortified positions.  They can scout somewhat, and are great at taking out artillery or enemy scouts.

They rarely have the firepower of a same-tier heavy.  Even with the derp tanks, they have the alpha of a heavy, but HEAT has less pen than same-tier non-derp guns using APCR and their accuracy greatly reduces their effective firepower, limiting the situations they can apply that firepower.

I agree that the 3601 is a heavy.  It's fast, but it has middling agility at best, is fairly well armored, and has a heavy tank gun on it that lacks nothing really except that the pen is slightly low.  The Jumbo is really a medium in that it should flank most of the time, I think.

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3601H

Potato_assassin #20 Posted Mar 23 2013 - 21:18

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Generally with mediums you have to use your speed and flank or circle-strafe heavies and TD's. as in 15 KV-1's vs 15 T-34s for an example, if the T-34s circle and swarm the KV's they could win